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    Posted: 31 Jul 18 at 2:51pm
I cannot see any significant trend that suggests that all is healthy in the Singlehander Championship camp; what I see is that over 12 years the number of double handed class participants has dropped by 4000 amd the number of single handed class participants has dropped by 100, hardly a ringinging endorsement for either configuration ...
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You might conclude this is because more single-handed boats 
have been launched and not totally screwed over by the PYAG than the new double handers.

I guess it's handy to have a one size fits all answer to any problems with dinghies and dinghy racing!
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A single hander helm with 50% of weekends free for sailing could sail one weekend in two. Two people sailing a two hander each with 50% of weekends free, randomly selected, will only get to sail one in four..... Clearly it is harder to sail regularly with two than in a singlehander.......

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Are there really that many triple handers sailing?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jul 18 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by NickM99

Are there really that many triple handers sailing?


Presumably mostly open keelboats?
XOD, SB3, Dragon, Etchells and many more.
A -Raters?
The odd 18ft skiff I suppose!

These things work quite well sometimes, because you can still race if one person fails to turn up, or you can sail with a third person learning on the job.
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Yes, there's a few. The graph I put on the other page is number of sailors, not boats, so obviously times three for the triple-handers. 

Class Name2000200120022003200420052006200720082009201020112012201320142015201620172018
XOD7574726979797371807988145827880620560
SB2000143233525857376841364531212526370
RS Elite000001619211721332337261628273119
J7000000000000009120192935
National 1831282332303119332426145127301929212218
Ajax221419142416241726172317221721130814
18ft Skiff121418119141491060812768950
Dragon3042472635363624232732434541402035028
Swallow191920150152317132091017902018017
Soling012111514149000900008600
Etchells27372523253136018188817161420000
Thames A Rater131513131112141615151612001313000
Viper 6400000000000000005000
Victory000000000000161400000
Sonar00000015014118179600000
Seascape 180000000000060500000
Pandora14161515140000000000000
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80 GP 14's at Mounts Bay, so not all events affected by distance and traffic.
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That's a low turn out for a UK hosted GP14 worlds though. 


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Results for day 2 show 119 entries...

Changing the subject - how can this be called a Worlds? I can see a few boats from Irish clubs (whether NI, or IRL I can't tell) and one entry from Barbados, but that's it. Where else are Geeps sailed?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Steve411 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 18 at 8:42am
Originally posted by 423zero

80 GP 14's at Mounts Bay, so not all events affected by distance and traffic.

More like 120 I think
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