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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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It is a race between two people to establish who is faster. That is what a race is. From what you are saying the only fair race is between perfect human clones ... Which of course would be a dead heat.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Nicely sidestepped there, thought Id nailed you with the springy paraplegic led argument, which exactly makes my point, that to be truly fair if equipment is involved in a race, then that equipment should be matched exactly to the individual body of the competitors, which makes my point again that having identical equipment regardless of competitor size, cannot be fair. I believe the term is QED. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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And if it isn't fair that the fat kid in school always loses, then we must ban competitive sport from schools. This is all beginning to sound very 1970's socialist...
When size makes more difference than talent, you might have a (small) point. At the Lightning Nationals, I was up against people lighter than me, and heavier. Oddly, I beat heavier people on the windy day, and lighter people on the light day. And was beaten by ... oh, I can't be bothered to spell out the rest, suffice to say that yes, at the extremes, bodyweight made a difference, but generally, talent seemed to be the deciding factor. Edited by Rupert - 02 Nov 13 at 7:12pm |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I'm not saying it's not possible to defy the odds with skill, I've also beaten plenty of heavy folk in strong winds and taken kids out in light.
But, come up against someone at the top level with equal skills, knows every tactic, calls every shift, avoids every bear trap, then a lighter person will win in marginal planing and a taller heavier person will win in stronger winds if you are on the same kit. |
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Damn good job those boat boffins gave us rig controls to adjust those 'inequalities' on the fly...
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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It isn't defying the odds, it is simply sailing.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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True, and thoroughly good fun it is to, but getting back to the point, class sailing isn't any fairer than any other kind of sailing and should not be promoted as such in an effort to prevent new boats from gaining traction in the market place. |
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scotsfinn ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 17 May 12 Location: Glasgow Online Status: Offline Posts: 284 |
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Back on theme ..... Whose sailing their Icons and where this winter and spring. Thinking of travelling.
Going to re-rig number 7 tomorrow and who some boats the way to go! |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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It could be argued that PY racing is the fairest form of racing in that it allows all competitors to select a craft best suited to their physique, level of fitness (possibly age related) and agility.
Golf seems to work fairly well with a system of handicapping for skill levels and different tee positions for varying physiques. Just a thought. ![]() |
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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So you want to completely neutralise any physical differences. That is a nonsense. Sport is a physical undertaking to test skill and physique. If you want an intellectual challenge with no physical undertaking play chess.
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