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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Does L also have to give room and opportunity for W to keep clear as in a luff? Also does L only gain rights once the overlap commences or more relevant, W only have to start taking avoiding action once that overlap commences? In this example, that action would probably mean tacking away - but if in doing so Ws stern swings to leeward and snags L, isn't that Ls fault for not giving room? Guess it depends on whether L just puts her bow past Ws stern and demands immediate action or comes from further to leeward and is more fully overlapped for some time. Interesting, but if I was in the faster higher pointing boat I'd look to avoid the situation in the first place. |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Unlucky for the class 4 boat. L can sail her proper course, which may be higher than W's proper course. |
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WildWood ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Nov 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 136 |
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Ok, that makes sense on a reaching leg. What about when the boats are sailing to windward and the leeward boat is sailing higher and faster. Her proper course is then potentially going to cause a collision. Example Class 1 yacht sailing to windward came up behind and to leeward of our boat (class 4 yacht). We're not pointing as high or any where near as fast. Should we give way, or him? Calum, we're not going to be at Largo this weekend - damm weddings interfering with sailing |
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Calum_Reid ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 59 |
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what jim said, if you can give a little more detail then i can explain your situ better. Alternatively if I will be seeing u at largos regatta on sat i can chat to you then?
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6661 |
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OK? To put it simply L can't luff, but if Leeward sails a hotter angle downwind than W then W has to come up to L's preferred angle and keep clear. |
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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there is no such thing as the "overtaking boat rule"
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WildWood ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Nov 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 136 |
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Situation with two boats sailing the same leg of a course, both on the same tack, the leeward boat is faster than the other, approaching from asterm and becomes overlapped with the windward boat. Previously (several years ago) the leeward boat would have had to have been clear ahead and broken the overlap before aquiring luffing rights, however this no longer seems to be the case (at least I can't find anything about in the book anyway). Is it correct then that there is no need to be clear ahead, and leeward boats can luff from the moment they become overlapped (assuming the overtaking boat rule doesn't apply)? |
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