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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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So reading all that has been said by respected designers and theorists.
If I have understood correctly. A gybing board does not have magical properties that make a board "climb" to windward and there is no such thing as something for nothing. The most significant benefit is to allow the boat to track straight through the water for most efficient use of hull shape. If the above is right, given that hull alignment is top effect can I ask a couple of simple minded questions. Would a heavily chined hull shape benefit more than a round dish? Is the benefit greater in displacement mode, as when planing there is less hull in the water and what is would most likely be pretty flat anyway? Does the fact that gybing boards are big in Five Oh's (round and planing hulls) mean the above questions are total tosh or Five Oh's simply love tech? |
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realnutter ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 15 Location: Reading, UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 129 |
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As I understand it... gybing boards only work when fully down.. it's the bit that remains in the case that is shaped to allow the magic to happen...
Pull the plate up, as you would off the wind., and planing, and they can no longer gybe... |
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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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Thats the case for a gybing CB which has a diamond shaped head - the gybing daggers above gybe at all states of retraction. |
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realnutter ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 15 Location: Reading, UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 129 |
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Is a suitably shaped dagger board actually a good foil?.. It goes against all teaching to build a foil with max thickness toward the rear edge.. Edited by realnutter - 28 Jan 16 at 9:38pm |
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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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the daggerboard is shaped as one would optimally shape it, it then slides up and down through a diamond shaped "box" which then sits in the square case - should be evident in the pics above |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Come sail a Canoe Dan, and you'll be amazed how much time you lose tacking! Still, I expect you're right. I can't imagine doing it myself. |
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realnutter ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 15 Location: Reading, UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 129 |
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OK, I can see that in the second pic... Does the black rope have something to do with adjusting the angle? If so, how? If not, what's it diong? |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Could I guess the black rope there to pull the wedge shaped Vee back to adjust and ultimately lock the board's angle of attack.
Dan. Another simplistic question please. For a boat with a fixed board does it generally follow that when beating speed is your friend by generating greater power from the board at a lower angle of attack = less yaw of the hull. Pinching is not good if it means less speed and therefore a greater angle of attack needed to generate the power to oppose the rig force = more drag from hull yaw. Is pinching for height nearly a optical illusion? When in fact the actual track is probably the same or even worse.
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