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    Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 4:17pm
Will you be testing the D-Zero at the Draycote demo Boatshed?
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Will you be testing the D-Zero at the Draycote demo Boatshed?


Yep, I hope to if I'm in the country. 

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we'll look forward to your feedback (without jumping the gun, I found it's quite reminiscent of a 300 in the slippery dept, but obviously a hell of lot more stable / planted depending on your interpretation)
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aero insurance is £75 with the carbon rig, so not sure carbon is seen as expensive these days.
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Originally posted by mangoman

Dead downwind when it is light the Lasers are quicker as the Solution sail is restricted by the shrouds in how far forward it will go.



As I thought and this would be a major frustration for me.  

I think the absolute best una rig set up is a mast that is set well forward, no shrouds and a centre sheeting system.    When sailing dead down wind in sub planing winds, the boom can be let right out square or beyond with the helm is far enough forward to trim the hull nose down but still behind the mast.

This has a major advantage.   It means, with the centre sheeting system, the helm can grab a mainsheet fall directly off the boom and yank it in 1 : 1 in the pesky puffs that threaten to flip you to windward when sailing deep  by the lee.   

If the boat is designed with the mast too far aft, the helm will be sitting alongside the mast when running and the angle made by the mainsheet to the helms, makes it impossible to yank the boom in.   You then have no choice other than using the deck block and all it's purchases which is too slow.  Or sitting further back which drags the ass of the boat.

Although I like the D Zero rear sheeting for upwind, I intensely dislike the having to pull arm fulls of mainsheet in through the deck block.   It is just too slow.

The boats that fit my likes are the OK, Finn, RS300 and probably the Aero but I've not seen one.



I have a feeling that the OK has a rule that you cannot sheet straight off the boom.
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I have a feeling that the OK has a rule that you cannot sheet straight off the boom.


I think you can sheet straight off the boom but you can't pump on gusts to promote planing.   But if it's that windy, you'll want the purchase anyway.  Dunno, prob talking bolx

I was think more of those force 1 - 2 days where it is nice to be up front but still be able to trim the sail 1:1. 
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I have a feeling that the OK has a rule that you cannot sheet straight off the boom.


I think you can sheet straight off the boom but you can't pump on gusts to promote planing.   But if it's that windy, you'll want the purchase anyway.  Dunno, prob talking bolx

I was think more of those force 1 - 2 days where it is nice to be up front but still be able to trim the sail 1:1. 

That's correct I think about pumping.
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you've been sailing wide boats Boatshed!  Not sure on class rules, but in a Laser in those light winds (and I suspect the *eros too) just grab the effin' boom and pull it in windsurf-style!
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Originally posted by SimonW99

aero insurance is £75 with the carbon rig, so not sure carbon is seen as expensive these days.

it is if its a Finn or D-One. The latter is about £200 on GJW which is one of the cheapest out there. Not cheap when you consider the aero
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Originally posted by SimonW99

aero insurance is £75 with the carbon rig, so not sure carbon is seen as expensive these days.

it is if its a Finn or D-One. The latter is about £200 on GJW which is one of the cheapest out there. Not cheap when you consider the aero


I expect the D-One premium is higher because of the spinnaker. Perceived risk of damage due to downwind incidents?
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