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Originally posted by scotsfinn Quote - There, that's about it, now I'm off to see about putting a kite and a wire on an Icon.. I'd love to do it - but only so I can sail it on my own.(Johnny no mates version) However don't put your mates out the wire Graeme, the boat is so comfy to hike and so easy to sail you'll need someone to talk to while you are winning races or you'll be bored and lonely inboard! Have you brought the boat yet? Too much talking and not enough action I reckon

Just put the phone down and agreed a deal, going up next week to iron out the detail as to how we do it and how big a kite etc etc Here I go again, buying blind never having tried it even. I couldn't go today, No 1 daughter nicked my van to move back to that Lunnon.

I don't understand why the reluctance to adopt a wire, even if you just use it as a hiking support, and as I said a while back I don't like having anyone sat between me and the wind, it's like sailing blind, i can't feel a thing. Don't even start me on idle chatter, drinks of water, waving to your mates.. Communication should be just factual & tactical info and abuse at any Merlins that happen to be near.

I guess this means I may have to reluctantly let the Alto go (to a good home) the bread knife is going to go mental when she finds out, I may have to hide it down the lake, she's giving me grief about the Vtwin blocking the yard, hmm I can see some interesting discussions ahead, good job she never reads forums eh?

Edited by iGRF - 01 Nov 13 at 2:48pm

Originally posted by 2547 Originally posted by iGRF There is no equality in class racing, never will be, all the time body shapes and weights are unequal, so the main tenet of class racing is built on a lie. What garbage ... that is like saying there is no equality in the 100m as Bolt is taller than Powell ... etc ... If the equipment is all the same you have a level playing field.

I wonder sometimes if you lot even realise what you're writing. If Powell were taller than Bolt maybe he'd beat him, as it is Bolt wins because he's taller & faster, how fair is that?

A straight 100 metres isn't a fair analogy, for that it's probably better to consider the paraplegics racing on equipment to help them run, then them all being forced to use exactly the same length springy things they use regardless of how tall they are or their stride length.

Originally posted by yellowwelly Why would someone who wants class racing buy a boat based on PY banditry? That defies logic- even for a dinghy sailor!

Er.. who let him in? He's awake then, sorry you're point is what exactly?

... It is definetely looking like time to stop dancing around the handbags ... and maybe put on the wetsuit and go sailing in whatever lights your particular fire.  

Its been said many times in the past but 20 minutes hands-on experience (er ..  as with so many of lifes most worthwhile and enjoyable activities )  is always worth any amount of reading and theory.  None of us are forced to  sail anything at all and if you like what you sail already then the rest of us are delighted for you ....

You don't have to try any other coffee than the Starbucks offerings either ...  if it hits the mark for you -  it really is your choice.  This was never going to be a 'winnable' discussion !  We all learn one day that individual choices are not uniform or universal...   (and thank Goodness for that!)  If you like your Starbucks coffee and drive a Mondeo well fantastic.  I have enjoyed both in my time as well but you will still probably not like my favorite 'Alfa'.  But what if you would like it ? And you never ever get to try to see if you do ?   And you would lose nothing by trying one....  but what next if it is as good as the hype ?      Blimey  ... now that might be a real worry.

Mike L.  (who will be sailing as usual this weekend !)