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robin34024 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Jan 12 Location: Lincoln Online Status: Offline Posts: 116 |
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does it matter if the boat is made marginally faster? its not as if a new hole in the rudder costs much, if anything to create, but it would make the whole boat more user friendly, likewise with the taping of the rear corners. i don't think anyone really thinks that a successful class could be made by giving the hull carbon spars and a fathead main. there are other boats that do that kind of thing well, but a laser could be so much nicer, but still a laser.
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mongrel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 304 |
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Not according to there PY, they've got slower on PY since getting XD ![]() My gripe with Lasers is just that they are a pain in the arse to rig. A simple round mast with track & halyard, plus same sail but with bolt rope instead of sleeve would make the laser much more convenient to own.
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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Or just run a zip up the luff tube... Having a zip in there would go someway to justifying the bloody price tag.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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The potential speed of the boat has not changed (just ask Scheidt who continued to use a 'classic' kicker rather than the XD kicker). What has changed is that the boat is not such a handful on certain maneuvers such as rounding up from a reach or run to close hauled when it is windy because you can effectively get the sail controls set which you could not do pre XD. It does make is easier for Mr John Q Clubsailor which make him go faster.... As for the PY comment the Laser is a good 'average' boat but one that rarely excels in any given conditions hence why you rarely see one near the front at a major event.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I've noticed a huge difference in my ability to sail a Laser. Being far too short and somewhat on the light side, I found the old kicker just wouldn't depower enough, and I couldn't get the old cunningham on enough to stop me being stuck in irons in a blow. Barely used the cats cradle mess they had for years, but jumped in an XD rigged boat when doing some training a few years ago, and was amazed at the difference. |
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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This is hilarious! Let's change the laser (one of the most successful classes of all time) by adding features from classes that by laser standards are massively un-successful.
Excellent plan! The fact is, if you don't know why the laser is so successful you should admit you're not in a position to make suggestions on how it could be improved.
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tick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 16 Nov 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 223 |
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Oh come on! What a good and successful car the Morris Minor was, over 1,000.000 sold......why did they ever change it?
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SoggyBadger ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Oct 10 Location: The Wild Wood Online Status: Offline Posts: 552 |
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There's an old saying "rats breed faster than race-horses".
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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They didn't, it was superseded by other cars that people wanted more. That hasn't happened with the laser. And how is a car in any way a good analogy for a small dinghy used for racing?
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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really... I'd have thought it was discontinued and a newer product brought to market to replace it proactively. Sure, you need demand, but demand needn't be passive or latent as seems to be the case in dinghydom.
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