RS aero

Originally posted by Null Originally posted by sargesail Originally posted by Null Hang on.  I never said it should be sheeted onto the centreline Simon.  I am many things but not a complete Noob, i know how a rig works pretty well thanks very much.  However the boom is well out over the gunwale and the boat above 'Her' is sailing at a much higher angle.  So in my opinion it doesnt look like a traditional 'Upwind' video.  There are very few classes (if any) where a boom spending more time over the Gunwale is classed as upwind.  The D-one (a boat as you know i spent nearly 4 years sailing) sails with the boom in most conditons on the gunwale.  It may drop further onto the wing in big winds.  But even then its a very powerful boat and the toss up between VMG is questionable.   I am not questioning this ladies sailing technique whatsover, just what you are claming is upwind in the video.  As frankly in my opinion its not.  The later footage of the 5 however is! How would you know? You keep reminding us you haven't sailed the boat.   The difference in the angles in the video looks no more and probably less than I would expect between me as a heavy 300 sailor who likes to foot, and a lightweight who needs to stuff....but I can't really know 'cos I haven't sailed it either. I can tell you that the *eros and the 2000 were pretty much level paced upwind in a F4 club racing 2 weeks ago.  Both *eros pointed higher than the 2000, but went slower.  Inconclusive which of the *eros pointed higher: different sailors were in different modes. .  That's your opinion and it's just as valid as mine Matt, but obviously you have a problem with me that you need to be so agressive in your responses.   Way to go tough guy!

Originally posted by Null 'calling someone' is actually when you disprove what they are saying. Yet all you have done is offer a differing opinion.  So no you have not 'called me out' you have just made several personal attacks and shown your true colours.  Well done, give yourself a big tick in that big red pen of yours

Edited by sargesail - 03 Dec 14 at 10:22pm

Originally posted by Null Thanks for posting that, it proves that by definition I am right. So me calling you out like perhaps... You have hidden agendas like family that perhaps help run the rs association?  Therefore your attempts to belittle me are filled with conflict of interest.

I don't care whether one 'Ero performs optimally upwind with different boom angle to the other 'Ero, or the boom vertical angle differs (unless clearance for tacking is significantly compromised), or whether sail cloths differ unless longevity significantly compromised. If class racing then relative performance is irrelevant; if handicap racing then the handicap will (eventually) reflect significant performance differences, albeit subject to the boat's suitability for local conditions.

I get so confused by all this, is it sailing politics? I just race boats, badly, I admit. If I indulged in all this stuff would it make me a better sailor? I doubt it. Bickering, my kids used to do that and got slapped wrists because it was so boring and got no one anywhere.