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    Posted: 29 Mar 10 at 9:49am
You will find that like the vareo in you keep bow down the boat will point higher also sailing it if you can like 300 style keeping the rig on top of you also helps as this will bring the boat to point higher i know when i tried the 100 i felt you had to sit along way forward to get the same pointing as the vareo.
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Originally posted by Phil J

Well had my first outing today.

I got a rescue boat to take some photos so I'll post a
link to these once I can find out who took them!

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That was me, Phil. Have added the pics to your RS100 Sailors group on Facebook.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

a little tip... grease up the stump and the mast foot cap with a bit of
vaseline. It'll soon stiffen up with the loads we put through the mast foot.

My stump released easily but I had to poke the cap out of it with my tiller
extension as that was properly wedged... no tape either.


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TT you're pimping an RS stiff stick..
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Hopefully I've spoken to all the guys who have a 100 now- lots of useful feed back, thank you all! One suggestion was that on the 300 we used to mark the position of the Kicker at rest, then put it fully on and mark that spot (white electrical tape was favourite) and maybe have a few intermediate marks, so you could easily see where you are on the travel- I think the kicker could be critical, and certainly when I started in the 3 I was far too conservative about putting it on.

Anyway, keep it coming, and if I get anything that isn't on here, I'll pass it on to you all!

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Rob,

Thanks for your update.

I am pretty keen (very keen actually !) to find how best to depower the
10.2 for upwind in a bit of breeze - I was actually pretty overpowered in
not a lot of breeze !

Having not sailed a 300 I am not sure just how much kicker can be
applied - anyone got any advice on this ? I understand the principle that
initially kicker is generating power and that it then progressively reduces
power by flattening the sail and lowering the COE. Just not how much we
are talking here (dont want to break it !!).

Also I did find pulling on the outhaul helped. Initially the boom strap was
resting against the mainsheet tie-off point (i.e maximum eased) and I
was
getting hammered ! Found life easier later when I pulled it on some.
However, I note from the 300 tuning guides they dont really stress
outhaul as a depowering device.

I am looking for advice here as I have no experience at all in boats where
on the water tuning is critical. Most of my experience is in set-it-and-go
type boats.30_212319_RS100_low_Res.JPG">

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Guys, I have not got an RS100 Manual to hand, but thought it described the sail number position - apologies if not. Have a look at the RS100 photos on RSsailing.com - you'll see that the idea is to have the sail numbers above the national letters. This way they all fit fine and, we think, look better.

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Hi all,

Following Robs mail - we are scouring the posts to get as much feedback as we can - if we need to make changes to presentation, manual, advice etc - we will - points picked up on so far:

1. Shrouds - yes they have a top and bottom - we will mark them in future to help the next guys - 200 manuals printed so it will miss this run!

2. Tape the heel plug - even if it feels snug - depending on the tiller ext you have it is possible to snag it with the outer end and pull out: Not totally sure about vaseline - with sand it is a nightmare: Just wash out occasionally.

3. Vang roller - we will check Selden do not overtighten the bolt in production - the arms should just slide easily either side of the mast and the roller rotate very easily - almost "sloppy". First batch of booms were like this and fine- Alex has added to our checklist. The first 10 or so boats we rigged fully and thus would have picked this up if it had been a problem to start with.

4.Sounds sensible to add shackle to outhaul to save un-tying the knot. - and a little hook for the cunningham - maybe - carefull not to reduce your available travel? Changes like these to ease user friendliness may be in the draft rules - but we will want to tweak these to incorporate good ideas through the summer - and then the first "official" rules voted in at AGM at Parkestone or St Raphael? 

As a general rule, the mast shuld be slightly prebent when setting up on shore prior to hoist - kicker and cunno will make them slack when afloat and on 8.4 they generally stay slack upwind as the mast is acting as unstayed: More rig tension to start with and you might get the windward shroud to just take some sideways load - but it might not be fast. On 10.2 with higher loads - especially sideways - the windward shroud will take some load most of the time - so much so that at times we thought it beneficial to extend the spreader ends out a hole or 2 for the real porky guys - seemed to help height. the ability to adjust the spreader length will be allowed in the rules as it is with the 200/400. 

Thanks to all and good sailing,

Nick.

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Originally posted by ChrisC

Rob,

Thanks for your update.

I am pretty keen (very keen actually !) to find how best to depower the
10.2 for upwind in a bit of breeze - I was actually pretty overpowered in
not a lot of breeze !

Having not sailed a 300 I am not sure just how much kicker can be
applied - anyone got any advice on this ? I understand the principle that
initially kicker is generating power and that it then progressively reduces
power by flattening the sail and lowering the COE. Just not how much we
are talking here (dont want to break it !!).

Also I did find pulling on the outhaul helped. Initially the boom strap was
resting against the mainsheet tie-off point (i.e maximum eased) and I
was
getting hammered ! Found life easier later when I pulled it on some.
However, I note from the 300 tuning guides they dont really stress
outhaul as a depowering device.

I am looking for advice here as I have no experience at all in boats where
on the water tuning is critical. Most of my experience is in set-it-and-go
type boats.

With he 300, when you think you have loads of kicker on you are usually half way there!  In bug stuff, it would scare you 100 boys the amount we crank on, but it really transforms the boat.  I tend not to use the out-haul as an aid to de-power the boat, i use kicker and sheet control as well as pulling the board up a fair old chunk (say 30cm)  When i have run out of kicker, i pull on the cunningham, when i run out of Cunningham its basically so windy the world is probably going to end and the Phantom boys would only manage two out of the three races!

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