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    Posted: 12 Jul 23 at 1:24pm
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Originally posted by Sussex Lad


Quick question to anyone who reads this:

False question. Conventional UK good manners is to thank anyone who gives you good service even if it's part of their job.


exactly, we thank bus drivers as  we alight  the bus if it;s front entrance bus  - obviously slightly difference if it;s dual door otr  the rare occasionas the rearmost doors on a borismaster are in use , the counter staff at  the take away when they hand over   your  order ,,
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Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Quick question to anyone who reads this:

Do you consider it appropriate to thank volunteers for volunteering?

or...

Do you consider it something that should be done by all members as a matter of duty and therefore require no thanks?
Interesting point. I've been thanked for running OOD, PRO, or safety duties but in my experience committee duties can be thankless. 
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Originally posted by Late starter

Interesting point. I've been thanked for running OOD, PRO, or safety duties but in my experience committee duties can be thankless. 

It is interesting isn't it. We thank people at point of delivery as it were where we see them in action, but if its something done out of sight like a committee meeting then I think by and large it happens much less. In my head I find it natural to thank the people on the Committee boat, say as I pass through the finish line, but it feels rather odd to consider when I might thank the person who maintains the damn boat so its there for the RC. The only time it feels as if it might be appropriate is applause at an AGM. Probably futile to look for too much logic and consistency in social custom. But bearing in mind the care and feeding of volunteers is one of the most crucial aspects of club management maybe we should think about this more.
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I thought the raising a hand in return for a hoot as one passed through the finish line was all part of the habitual group-think at the good end of the sailor scale - irrespective of being the first or the last boat through?


That's what set us apart from football fans boo-ing and chucking bananas....


If the finish boat is in earshot, nothing wrong with a 'thank you' too.


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Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Quick question to anyone who reads this:

Do you consider it appropriate to thank volunteers for volunteering?

or...

Do you consider it something that should be done by all members as a matter of duty and therefore require no thanks?

I've done Commodore, Vice and Rear, and Sailing Sec twice, and only once was i not thanked at the AGM. OOD duties somebody always says thanks. I always make a point of thanking the volunteer galley staff, big job and frankly between them all they could open a restaurant. Of course volunteers need appraciated (unless they set a rubbish course ;-) )

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Originally posted by drifter

Of course volunteers need appraciated (unless they set a rubbish course ;-) )


Even if they set a rubbish course  Big smile
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Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Quick question to anyone who reads this:

Do you consider it appropriate to thank volunteers for volunteering?

or...

Do you consider it something that should be done by all members as a matter of duty and therefore require no thanks?


It's worth thanking everyone who's made an effort.
That includes people doing duties, people helping ad hoc like fetching a trolley for a laser, and equally importantly, the competitors who turn out and give you a race.
Maybe we don't always use the word 'thank' but it's good to say  something positive, like 'it was good to see you on the water today'. Or 'I enjoyed our race'.

There's plenty of events which could do with a few more competitors, making them feel valued for more than their entry fee might help?

There's other ways of showing your support than muttering 'thanks' as you leg it for the bar, like helping pack up the marks or whatever, giving people a had to roll their sails or even just spending time to chat with the volunteers etc instead of rushing off.


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What a weird question. Why wouldn't you thank anybody for volunteering? The simple fact that they are there and volunteering means that they aren't somewhere else doing something for themselves.

I'll ask you an equally silly question in return; What would stop you from thanking them? What downsides do you foresee?
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Originally posted by Sheetpuller

What a weird question. Why wouldn't you thank anybody for volunteering? The simple fact that they are there and volunteering means that they aren't somewhere else doing something for themselves.

I'll ask you an equally silly question in return; What would stop you from thanking them? What downsides do you foresee?


Personally I don't see any downside. Here's a reply I posted to someone else earlier.

Originally posted by Sussex Lad

Originally posted by Noah

 

I think it’s just good manners to thank those who have run the racing, for example. 
It is also nice to receive thanks and/or compliments having run racing for a day. How are a race team to know the event could have been improved if no-one tells them? There are, of course, nice ways and less nice ways of doing this!

Thanks for e.g. a work party normally come in the form of a supplied lunch or similar.

In my previous class a whip round was made to raise some cash to buy goodies for the trolley crews who were generally the youngsters from the host club. 


My thoughts exactly.

Sadly I have heard the other option voiced several times over the years. IMO being miserly of spirit is not a good look.



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