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423zero 
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 Topic: 1st October - sports clubsPosted: 04 Nov 20 at 8:57pm |
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Clearly states you may sail, rest of sentence is in RYA update, you are correct about sailing, I only race too.
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Posted: 04 Nov 20 at 9:06pm |
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Not wanting to labour the point but it states you “may be able to sail” not “you may sail”. Quite a difference!
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 04 Nov 20 at 9:16pm |
True, if you are sailing on a public waterway and launching from a public outdoor space. Most inland clubs up here lease their water for their exclusive use and there is rarely, if ever, viable access from a public outdoor space. You can't launch from the club because "Outdoor sports centres and amenities (which includes sailing clubs and watersports centres) will have to close" If you launch from a beach or like, I assume, Grafham and Rutland a public space you can sail. I can't see how my club will be able to allow sailing, or even access to boats for a bit of bimbling as it would be hard to claim that was "essential checks or maintenance" so not a reasonable excuse to travel... Edited by Sam.Spoons - 05 Nov 20 at 1:46pm |
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rich96
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Posted: 05 Nov 20 at 5:57am |
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The RYA webinar was clear (ish)
Clubs will have to close and pretty much no access except for essential maintenance - not bumbling, collecting boats, cutting grass etc The only sailing will be from public areas (as long as boats don't have to be taken from private club compounds etc) Even this may be limited if there are too many users (slips/beaches etc) and public perception is not great Travelling with a boat (to public launching/sailing areas) may be ok but maybe frowned upon by police Essentially - most clubs are now shut No sports are exempt apparently Roll on spring Edited by rich96 - 05 Nov 20 at 5:58am |
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bluefish
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Posted: 05 Nov 20 at 10:00am |
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What a ridiculous world we live in where I can travel to a non-essential shop to collect a non-essential item but I can't collect my dinghy from the dinghy park to get some exercise.
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fleaberto
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Posted: 05 Nov 20 at 11:07am |
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The 'No bimbling / Maintenance' part was interesting.
By not allowing anyone in to check on boats a club may be accepting liability for any damage incurred if no regular boat park checks are being made. Collecting boats wasn't deemed 'Illegal' , simply frowned upon as new regulations have no 'law' regarding travel distances. It's simply something that may be frowned upon and a person may be required to provide reasonable excuse if challenged. To be honest, we can't realistically police clubs 24/7, so I've simply appealed to our members better nature and sense of family/community in following the regulations as they now stand and consider if trips/boat work are actually essential where no regulation exists. In not looking for loopholes, however, I did find one with regards to the description of 'Public Space' - a question that was raised by a public fishing association that lease land not from a club, but directly from a landowner: A ‘public outdoor space’ is defined as an ‘outdoor place to which the public have, or are permitted, access (whether on payment or otherwise).’ We believe this clearly includes riverbanks, towpaths, beaches and stillwaters that can either be accessed freely or on the payment of a day ticket or subscription levied by the owner or leased to a publicly available fishing association. The government clearly intends for people to be able to take their outdoor exercise and recreation in the form of angling and these regulations allow this to occur |
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Old bloke
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Posted: 05 Nov 20 at 11:09am |
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I don't think that the lockdown is necessary or the best way forward, but if you are going to lockdown there is no point in messing about. Lock everyone down as hard as possible and do the job. Unless you go to the extremes that the French and Spanish did in the spring, there are always going to be grey areas and inconsistencies. The worst outcome would be to half heartedly lockdown and give "them" an excuse to continue it in December
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jeffers
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Posted: 05 Nov 20 at 12:20pm |
Lots of fishing clubs lease the fishing rights rather than the land. As many fishing clubs are on rivers and in country parks they are public open spaces.
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Rupert
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Posted: 05 Nov 20 at 12:20pm |
Are many non essential shops opening for click and collect? The one I work for has decided to do home delivery only. As for exercise, there are many other forms which don't need a boat. |
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bluefish
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Posted: 05 Nov 20 at 12:34pm |
Yes, for example I could pop to Curry's right now if I wanted and pick up a new toaster and I'm allowed to go sailing, just for some strange reason I can't collect my dinghy from the park.
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