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iGRF
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Topic: The Solution.Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 12:21pm |
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Looks like something adjustable going on up at the forestay.. Anyway, I quite like the look of it, ticks a lot of my boxes as well with that retracting plate, and not to massive a sail and with a PY around 1080 it's in the ballpark with the Lasers I race against and not too far off Streaker, Solo's as to possibly be achievable if I get it right. Edited by iGRF - 16 Oct 14 at 12:26pm |
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jeffers
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 12:37pm |
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I would beg to differ. My D-Zero (carbon rig) is not that much more to insure than my Laser was with the same company for the same level of cover.
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Blue One
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 12:53pm |
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It does not cost me anymore to insure my boat now it has a carbon mast than it did when it had a aluminium one. |
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 1:30pm |
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guys- both your boats haven't built up the same risk profile as others did with carbon masts around the same time the Solution would have taken that decision. Similarly the price point between a tin and carbon phantom stick was far broader too.
back in the day- my RS600 was over 300 quid to insure- purely because of the risk profile from carbon masts from broken Angell masts, and also Superspars weren't that reliable. It stands to reason, nearly a decade on, that carbon masts have improved longevity and with broader application on less extreme boats, prove not to be the great fear they once were from an underwriting POV. |
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jeffers
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 1:47pm |
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Correct. Plus you can usually repair a carbon mast rather than have to replace it which is much cheaper.
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mangoman
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 3:28pm |
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The forestay can be let off when going upwind in a breeze to allow the rig to rake and depower; very useful ! Lift the board a bit to keep everything nicely balanced.
There is an Aero at Hickling and so far I have always beat it over the water; I think he uses the 9 rig ? Dead downwind when it is light the Lasers are quicker as the Solution sail is restricted by the shrouds in how far forward it will go. Hope this answers some questions |
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tgruitt
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 3:29pm |
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You are almost making insurance companies sound considerate! ![]() |
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 3:42pm |
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PY estimate of 1040 for the aero 9 vs 1080 for the solution suggests one sailor is doing something well and the other isn't
. The rig on the aero does need kicker as left to its own devices with no kicker it has no real shape, so I expect a lot of leisure sailors will wonder what is wrong! Once you get used to it, it sets well, but leave it slack and you might be overtaken by a mirror. |
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boatshed
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 4:08pm |
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As I thought and this would be a major frustration for me. I think the absolute best una rig set up is a mast that is set well forward, no shrouds and a centre sheeting system. When sailing dead down wind in sub planing winds, the boom can be let right out square or beyond with the helm is far enough forward to trim the hull nose down but still behind the mast. This has a major advantage. It means, with the centre sheeting system, the helm can grab a mainsheet fall directly off the boom and yank it in 1 : 1 in the pesky puffs that threaten to flip you to windward when sailing deep by the lee. If the boat is designed with the mast too far aft, the helm will be sitting alongside the mast when running and the angle made by the mainsheet to the helms, makes it impossible to yank the boom in. You then have no choice other than using the deck block and all it's purchases which is too slow. Or sitting further back which drags the ass of the boat. Although I like the D Zero rear sheeting for upwind, I intensely dislike the having to pull arm fulls of mainsheet in through the deck block. It is just too slow. The boats that fit my likes are the OK, Finn, RS300 and probably the Aero but I've not seen one. |
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Rupert
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Posted: 16 Oct 14 at 4:11pm |
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Take a look at a Lightning too, Boatshed - that is their set up.
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