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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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Solos beat Lasers in light winds.... we often find ourselves catching up their rear guard despite them starting 3 minutes before us. However they kill us on planing reaches- the Laser is not a slow boat on this point of sail- hence why it was so novel in its time.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The sails are made by Banks, not Norths, but otherwise Tick is fairly close. There has been a period of change in the class, but we now have 2 sails available to buy, one dacron, one mylar, both now radial cut. Of course, there are a lot of cross cut dacron mains out there, so the 3 sails will be racing against each other for some time to come. Masts have changed simply because of trying to find a decent supplier. However, it has now stabilized, with 1 manufacturer producing a choice of 2 top masts, one a little stiffer than the other, to go on one standard bottom mast. This should increase the weight variation competitive helm, without creating a "gear war". The overlap between the masts weight wise is pretty large, so it is only really the top and bottom ends of the spectrum who will notice much difference.
However, this is all a little off subject - that of increasing Nats attendance. Membership of the Lightning CA has grown by about 25% this year, so I think that will start to show in attendance. The other problem, which I'm sure we share, is that the Nats is on neutral ground. Our bigger opens may have 8 or 10 home boats sailing, many of whom don't travel. We are missing that boost at the Nats. |
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iitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 13 Location: Tunstead Milton Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
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Compared to Byte lightnings make you feel safe without making you feel old the way a Solo does (well mine anyway). Last Sunday it was very windy....to windy to race. An 8 1/2 stone girl-friend of mine forsook her Lightning in which she is quite effective and took out a club Radial, just for the reaches. Her Lightning would have been a handful. However this Sunday she will be back in her Lightning which she much prefers.
GRF seems obsessed with beating Lasers on the water. The best boat for this PY busting is Byte in a blow but it can be done in a Lightning in lightish winds. At our club this happens all the time but that is another story.......
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iitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 13 Location: Tunstead Milton Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
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Yes of course Rupert. When the Nationals were held twice at West Oxford (the spiritual home of the class) turnout was very good and boosted by local boats. Are there any Lightnings at Northampton? Perhaps a Cookham Nationals might hit the magic 30? Hummmmm....
Sorry Banks.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I think we had 26 at the Cookham open - not sure we could have squeezed 4 more in!
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Simply because that's what the competition is, I struggle enough to do it in the EPS in confined water the Laser is quicker out of transitions and since my man bought a new sail he has me upwind at times, Offwind generally if I remember to let go the kicker thing I'm quicker. On the sea if I sail properly and hard I'll pull away, but I'll almost never win on handicap and, I've never ever won a race on that lake even when I get extraordinarily lucky with puffs and am back on the bank with minutes to spare.. It actually didn't bother me at all until they started putting names in the local paper which then winds you right up, especially if someone who one might regard as a complete and total muppet destroys all those years of newspaper glory and personal vanity chiselling away in a Streaker, you've got to have a pretty thick hide not to let that one bother you.. ![]() Edited by iGRF - 20 Sep 13 at 1:06pm |
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yellowwelly ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2003 |
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sorry I stopped reading after that, the answer you are looking for is... buy a Laser.
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scotsfinn ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 17 May 12 Location: Glasgow Online Status: Offline Posts: 284 |
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+1 Very true .... But he'll never learn .... And do we want him to
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Been there done that, even reviewed it for you when you were Turnturtle the famous blogsmith, boat reporter and welsh animal husbandry expert.
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iitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 13 Location: Tunstead Milton Online Status: Offline Posts: 392 |
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Lets put this into perspective. We will use young Fuller as an example.
We do not like Lasers out of pure perversity. Everyone has one, the sails flap, the mast is iron. We should (if we are light) sail a Byte C2. Don't argue, because it is nimble and sophisticated. Solo's are like AGA's, I have one, great in the kitchen but I would rather not sail it. Lightning 368 remarkably sophisticated for an old design and great on a lake. If only the sail had a bit of roach it would look so much more modern. Streaker? Look pretty but I have never seen one sail. Smeone tell us about Streakers.
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