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Bruce Starbuck ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
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I think when a rudder stalls, it's due to the water flow detatching and air being sucked down the low pressure side from the surface, and is called aeration, or something like that. A dinghy's never going fast enough to boil the water, so cavitation is a commonly used misnomer in this case. Quite a few classes have rudders with a narrow chord where they pierce the surface. The 470s have been doing it for years. Not sure it makes a huge difference, and it's quite a test of foil building to go making it narrower right at the point where it needs the most strength!
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Bruce Starbuck ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
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Cavitation is the rapid formation and collapse of vapour pockets in a flowing liquid in regions of very low pressure. This most often happens when water boils at normal temperatures due to very low pressure on propeller blades. This doesn't happen on dinghy foils. |
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maxim ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 127 |
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And could you possibly explain what cavitation is...
(I'm not a marine engineer) Max |
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Bruce Starbuck ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 124 |
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Chord is the straight line distance between the leading and trailing edges of a foil (or sail). Cord is another name for rope!
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Jamie ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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I'm fairly sure that "short chord" is a reference to the width of the rudder at that point. - you will see the concave curve on the top of the rudder making it a shorter shord at that point. Nothing to do with rope. Of course I may just have made a fool of myself there. |
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Brian ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Sep 04 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 503 |
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ummm yeah... i understand that im sorry lucy i havnt really a clue wat u just said, im not very knowledgeable on anything to do with sailing as a matter of fact. i can see that the rudder is a funky shape alright but i dont really get what it would do, much obliged if u could explain? (i know what cavitation is,i think, but not how the rope would stop it) |
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Lucy Lee ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 276 |
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er, wow. Check out their very very groovy rudder, which has some pretty amazing features like the short chord at the point where it pierces the surface to reduce ccavitation at high speed. I recon thats the most amazing foil I've seen since the hydrofoiling moths. I know what I'll be making for my next cherub rudder. |
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sailor girl ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Jun 04 Location: Spain Online Status: Offline Posts: 1031 |
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what's ewnt mean!!!
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Doctor Clifford ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 243 |
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thought you ewnt to university??!! 'id of been'? (only joking, beofre you fire one back!) |
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Blobby ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |
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The big splash on the right must be where the helm / crew landed - 7m away from the back end of the boat...now that is fast...
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