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tgruitt ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479 |
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this is the stylish way to capsize a solo! I didnt know they went fast enough to capsize. |
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Needs to sail more...
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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To be fair there were numerous classes (all but one solely antipodean) that had the skiff concept on 1 string quite nicely sorted on one string long before the 29er. I've never regarded the 29er as being especially radical performance design wise. However I do think it's a superb exercise in talented production engineeering. To get the price down to what the parents are prepared to pay, still have a reasonably durable boat and keep the handling is an oustanding effort. You'd expect those to be "pick any two from three" options... I guess it demonstrates the differences between the one design and the development class designer's challenges. To design a faster boat than the 29er within a 29er sized box is really quite doable. To design a boat that will sell better for all the other reasons is a *considerably* greater challenge. It seems to me that Topper, RS and Laser have introduces new boats that are more or less head on competing with each others but not so much direct competitors with the Bethwaite boats. Incidentally I don't remember hearing about larger rigs or two strings from early 29er prototypes, but the first one was a fair bit smaller and probably quite a lot more twitchy... Edited by JimC |
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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thats a cool picture! does anyone have any pics of a 29er twin wirering?
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guytoon ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Feb 05 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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And the next one ? It's little player, double tea-bagging is more ambitious. |
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Cherub 2692 "NBS"
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Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
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Flippin' eck it worked...here's 5 seconds later then...
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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
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Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
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OK then try this one... (bet it don't work...)
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RS700 GBR922 "Wirespeed"
Fireball GBR14474 "Eleven Parsecs" Enterprise GBR21970 Bavaria 32 GBR4755L "Adastra" |
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ianwat2212 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 11 Dec 04 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 88 |
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Thats obviously why Julian Bethwaite went for the single wire option when he designed it, part of the beauty of the 29er is how well it makes the skiff concept work with 1 trap.
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Yann ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
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some of my mates did it at northampton open in 2001 i think, they were
very good and found it unsailable (it was very windy) because the 29er
was so twitchy. they didnt win any of the races against single wire.
looked pretty amusing tho.
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hydrographer20 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 867 |
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really now that i gotta see
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byte me!- GBR 814
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Scooby_simon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415 |
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I am sure there were a couple of kids sailinga twin wire 29er last year at Grafham...
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Wanna learn to Ski - PM me..
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