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    Posted: 08 Mar 05 at 8:14pm

this is the stylish way to capsize a solo! I didnt know they went fast enough to capsize.

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Originally posted by ianwat2212

Thats obviously why Julian Bethwaite went for the single wire option when he designed it, part of the beauty of the 29er is how well it makes the skiff concept work with 1 trap.


To be fair there were numerous classes (all but one solely antipodean) that had the skiff concept on 1 string quite nicely sorted on one string long before the 29er.

I've never regarded the 29er as being especially radical performance design wise. However I do think it's a superb exercise in talented production engineeering. To get the price down to what the parents are prepared to pay, still have a reasonably durable boat and keep the handling is an oustanding effort. You'd expect those to be "pick any two from three" options...

I guess it demonstrates the differences between the one design and the development class designer's challenges. To design a faster boat than the 29er within a 29er sized box is really quite doable. To design a boat that will sell better for all the other reasons is a *considerably* greater challenge. It seems to me that Topper, RS and Laser have introduces new boats that are more or less head on competing with each others but not so much direct competitors with the Bethwaite boats.

Incidentally I don't remember hearing about larger rigs or two strings from early 29er prototypes, but the first one was a fair bit smaller and probably quite a lot more twitchy...



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thats a cool picture!  does anyone have any pics of a 29er twin wirering?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote guytoon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Mar 05 at 9:39am

And the next one ?  

It's little player, double tea-bagging is more ambitious.

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Flippin' eck it worked...here's 5 seconds later then...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Iain C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 11:28pm
OK then try this one... (bet it don't work...)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ianwat2212 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 10:08pm
Thats obviously why Julian Bethwaite went for the single wire option when he designed it, part of the beauty of the 29er is how well it makes the skiff concept work with 1 trap.
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some of my mates did it at northampton open in 2001 i think, they were very good and found it unsailable (it was very windy) because the 29er was so twitchy. they didnt win any of the races against single wire. looked pretty amusing tho.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote hydrographer20 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 8:22pm
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Scooby_simon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Mar 05 at 8:19pm
I am sure there were a couple of kids sailinga  twin wire 29er last year at Grafham...
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