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    Posted: 30 May 22 at 11:11am
Grumpy, Banbury Cross is the same as your club, fenced off only sailing club with access, but it is concrete lined, sides are sloped, you can't get near the concrete wall, they have a floating pontoon.
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Originally posted by 423zero

Grumpy, Banbury Cross is the same as your club, fenced off only sailing club with access, but it is concrete lined, sides are sloped, you can't get near the concrete wall, they have a floating pontoon.

So are we and we have a pontoon too  Smile.

It confuses visitors that everyone has to launch at the same point and tie up at the pontoon before they can sail off, luckily we have assigned duty crew to help get people on and off the water. 
Even so it’s amazing how many good visiting sailors cannot come into a pontoon with out crashing into it .  LOL


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Originally posted by Grumpycat



Originally posted by 423zero

Grumpy, Banbury Cross is the same as your club, fenced off only sailing club with access, but it is concrete lined, sides are sloped, you can't get near the concrete wall, they have a floating pontoon.

So are we and we have a pontoon too  Smile.
It confuses visitors that everyone has to launch at the same point and tie up at the pontoon before they can sail off, luckily we have assigned duty crew to help get people on and off the water. 
Even so it’s amazing how many good visiting sailors cannot come into a pontoon with out crashing into it .  LOL



Hence the thick rubber conveyor belting around the pontoon's perimeter. It is also amazing how many local sailors who should know better, struggle to approach a pontoon under sail.😊 When we were a RTE by the end of the courses our trainees were always the best at it.
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My club launches from a jetty, most days its a onshore wind, very difficult to leave, some people find it easier to push off from launch ramp.

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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by 423zero

Fly anglers are OK,.


I wonder if there’s a parallel thread on an angling forum about dinghy sailors going something like “dinghy sailors are OK when they’re not all sailing the same type of boat, but if you encounter a gaggle of them all sailing boring white boats on their own, they’re right ar**holes”?

LOL

I think wingfoils are getting a few of them het up...

Funnily enough the similarities are uncanny: there are regular grumpy-old-man 'why is our sport dying' threads (answer - always that young people/outsiders are too feckless, lazy, screen obsessed - nothing to do with how the sport is presently organised of course...) that could be lifted directly from Y&Y.

It's another sport with a significant demographic problem that's going to come to a head in the next decade or so. Interestingly fly fishing appears to be growing in other countries - particularly the US - with particular take-up by a younger demographic and some real efforts to make it less male dominated. Which points to declines in these sort of sports not being inevitable but down to the present structure/organisation/communication of them.

Sailing and fly-fishing are birds of a feather in the UK - expensive with a ever present element of the British class system operating, and a love of of plastering the place in 'private - members only' signs.  Confused
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That really doesn’t surprise me , LOL!!!
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Originally posted by 423zero

Anglers, they should have been drowned at birth, anti social knuckle daggers, never been anything but a damned nuisance,     
Edited to add Swimmers too.


OK. Not sure why you posted that Robert. Perhaps you wanted to wake me up Wink

    .....so we don't want any anglers taking up sailing then?

Anglers who may already be members of sailing clubs or this forum, what are they to do in the face of this rant?
Perhaps they'll keep quiet and not mention they are....."Anglers". Who knew that "coming out" as an angler would be such a problem?

oops, just excluded about a million folk and your frustration hasn't gone away (and nor will it).


We can't get rid of groups we personally dislike. They will always exist. This is true of politics, religion, race, sexual orientation and sport. We cannot control the actions or preferences of others directly, we can only influence others through contact and dialogue. This is reciprocal of course, the influence will always go both ways and then the frustrations tend to evaporate.

The truth is all groups of people have ar**holes in their midst. If a person fishing on the beach casts large lead weights at you as you sail past (I have seen this happen more than once) they didn't do it because they are an angler, they did it because that individual is an ar**hole. 







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Birmingham anglers association , B A A, used to be very powerful, members only water all over West Midlands, then the government changed licencing rules and they disappeared overnight, I believe you used to have to get licence from individual associations.


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Sea Anglers have a liking for the same back eddies behind rocky promontories that tide cheating dinghy sailors also like.  Sea Anglers have weighty grappling hooky weights that can inflict a fair amount of damage to the sailors and their dinghies.   
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We used to have the odd very small problem with fishermen at Warwick but that was understandable as the river is narrow and the roach poles they were using at the time could reach half way across the river, I have been known to catch the odd line over the years 😀 but in general we all muddled along.  Except for once on a Wednesday evening a fisherman decided to shoot bait at one of our members every time he sailed by ( and before I go any further i have to say,  this guy was the nicest most non confrontational man I have ever met . ) So he stopped racing and went to have a word with the fisherman , things got a little heated and the bottom line is, the fisherman and his stuff ended up in the water and our club member packed his stuff up , went home and we never saw him again . So it was a lose lose situation for everyone concerned   Unhappy. I might just of laughed a little behind my hand at the time though. 

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