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    Posted: 05 May 22 at 6:23pm
I know what you mean - I think feeling settled and certainly ‘less busy’ post Covid has some impact

I’m organising a charity bike pack next weekend, we’ll raise all of €100 for the Ukrainian Crisis Centre but it’s at least something above adding flags to bios on Facebook

As for duties themselves, especially on the water - they are often quite good fun with an experienced PRO, especially when the timer screws up and you have to guess them for the results sheet
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Stick with 'duties', shows a level of discipline and dedication.
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Originally posted by Late starter

https://www.suttoninashfieldsailingclub.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR2XBygmxLh_gGjuWiu64r6NrN7n4cr0m1KF3NAazFEXWCSMWy-SLRdoauo

Looks like Sutton in Ashfield SC have lost their battle with the local council and will be closing in September. It's been years since I sailed there but I remember it being quite unusual in being in an urban setting, friendly bunch though so it's very sad.
A quick look at old race results o their website suggests it dropped below any sort of critical mass ages ago.
I'm a diehard total believer in the 'members' club' model of sailing clubs, but I think maybe there comes a point where too many cubs in too small an area is not helpful.
Maybe a commercial operation on this water could get more than 5 boats x twice a week n the water, and that would actually be better for 'sailing' in the big picture? Or maybe we should look beyond Dinghy Sailing and be positive about a wider range of water sports!

Post covid it's likely to get tougher, people have thought about what's importat, you can WFH and if sailing is important to you, you don't have to live in some dump at the wrong end of the A38 and sail on puddles only any good for RC boats.

Sometimes , it  is good to stop fighting rearguard actions aganst the decline of the inland dinghy craze  it's not the 1980s any more let alone the 1960s.
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TBF if you don't live within an hour of a decent coastal club (and not everybody can prioritise personal hobbies over work and family) then an inland club may be all that is available...
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Wow here's me living in one of the poorest parts of the UK and wasting my time sailing on a puddle, wish I had the money to follow my dream and sail on the sea.
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

TBF if you don't live within an hour of a decent coastal club (and not everybody can prioritise personal hobbies over work and family) then an inland club may be all that is available...

Am a little surprised at you for this post, I might have read it incorrectly, but it sounds like a sniff of  snobbery in this post re the sea over inland sailing . 

I am more than happy inland sailing , with in 40 mins of my house there are about 10 clubs and if I increased that range to an hour the number would go up to over 20 . They range in size from tiny clubs like mine up to Grafham sc. I think that give me all variety I need. 
Why would I want to travel 2 hours + to sail less, because of the weather/sea conditions and the fact most sea clubs are only open 9 months of the year. 

I apologise in advance if I have read too much into your post  Smile
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Events would seem to suggest that many 10s of 1000s of people living near the club in question are not  exactly enthusiastic about sailing there.

I've done my share of racing on such water, and the only way it can be any good is class racing with a reasonable fleet of fairly matched boats. Maybe team racing.

Beyond racing, it may be a good place to learn to sail, but once you are competent, you can hardly 'cruise' very far.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 22 at 8:48am
Originally posted by Grumpycat

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

TBF if you don't live within an hour of a decent coastal club (and not everybody can prioritise personal hobbies over work and family) then an inland club may be all that is available...

Am a little surprised at you for this post, I might have read it incorrectly, but it sounds like a sniff of  snobbery in this post re the sea over inland sailing . 

I am more than happy inland sailing , with in 40 mins of my house there are about 10 clubs and if I increased that range to an hour the number would go up to over 20 . They range in size from tiny clubs like mine up to Grafham sc. I think that give me all variety I need. 
Why would I want to travel 2 hours + to sail less, because of the weather/sea conditions and the fact most sea clubs are only open 9 months of the year. 

I apologise in advance if I have read too much into your post  Smile

Apologies in return, having reread my post I can easily see that it came across that way and that was quite the opposite of my intention  Embarrassed 
For the record I enjoy sailing at my inland club every bit as much as I do sailing on the sea.


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Originally posted by eric_c

Events would seem to suggest that many 10s of 1000s of people living near the club in question are not  exactly enthusiastic about sailing there.

I've done my share of racing on such water, and the only way it can be any good is class racing with a reasonable fleet of fairly matched boats. Maybe team racing.

Beyond racing, it may be a good place to learn to sail, but once you are competent, you can hardly 'cruise' very far.

Just putting a question out there , taking out the large Scottish lochs and the the big lakes in the Lake District. Does anyone ever join a inland club to cruise ? 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 May 22 at 10:34am
I wouldn't cruise on most inland water, exceptions being Rivers, Rutland, Kielder, etc, at a pinch I would sail round on my twenty acres pool with the kids, to get them interested in sailing.
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