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    Posted: 04 Feb 22 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by Grumpycat


I totally understand the reasons for moving the show but it will mean we won’t go very often.
Mrs Grumpycat and I have been regular visitors to the Dinghy show for the last few years on the Saturday because it makes a great day out.
We live in Coventry , so it straight onto the m1 and it’s a easy drive to ally pally . Get there early, look round the show in morning , then have a gentile stroll up the hill to the shops to have some lunch. Then a nice relaxed drive home. 
 Farnborough doesn’t really have the same pull for a day out lol. Plus you have to play with the m25 . Think we will give it a miss this year but I still really hope the show is a success . 



If you are planning to play on the M25 to get to Farnborough from round here, you need to upgrade your Sat Nav.

Just ordered our tickets. Planning to go on Saturday and meet up with old friends we haven't visited for a while who live nearby afterwards. Really looking forward to it this year.

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Won't be going this year, the V1.0 of anything new is a disaster..

I've been on a course at Farnborough, a few hundred yards from the venue.. The place is Traffic jam city, long queues every morning and evening, though that was during the week.


 As for time to get there, from Norfolk you're are talking of  an extra 50 miles each way so that's an hour without the nightmare that can be the M25. So taking the allowance for the journey up to at least 4 hours. Making it a very long day..


I can see the attraction for those carting equipment and boats to the show, much better access.. However other than not walking up that darned hill, I can see no attraction for the punter..


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One thing I've just noted from another hobby that uses Ally Pally, is that from next year there will be parking charges there. So that would be a further discouragement to use the place.

The problem with holding a dinghy exhibition at say Rutland in the summer, is many of us course are involved with sailing events elsewhere. This includes many exhibitors.

Our own Horning Boat show is the 30th April 2022, it's date is carefully chosen to be before the main broads boating season, and not on the day of any major local sailing events.. Sadly there's not a lot of dinghy stuff there, although Horning sailing club is open for a Try Sailing Day.

The RYA is very London / South coast biased,
To my eyes an ideal dinghy exhibition site would be Doncaster's exhibition centre. It's just off the A1/M18, linked to the M1 and across to the west coast via the M62, easy rail links, and even an airport.
For me on the coast of Norfolk it's got the same projected time to travel as Farnborough, but at least it's not the M25.

It would be interesting to see a map plotted of exhibitors, and attendees. That would show the actual centre of minimum travelling for everyone.
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“ The RYA is very London / South coast biased,’

The vast majority of the British sailing team Olympians where born and started to sail north of London. We need a new governing body. BDA British Dinghy Association
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Unfortunately the the RYA is the Royal YACHTING Association, and dinghies are seen just as a route to the big boats.

The show it's self ran for 31 years before the RYA took it over in 1983. Who ran it before I have no idea.

It a problem for many hobbies that shows were originally created in London because of availability of halls, of course everyone travelled by rail and we still had a good rail network.

Now many areas don't have easy ( or cheap) rail services, so the car is needed. London has become very anti car and other than Ally Pally parking is in very short supply.

I've just looked up the cost of travel for me to Farnborough.
Rail 4.15 hours each way, + 1/2 hour driving to the station,booked ahead ticket £71, parking £3 so a total of about £80.

Driving 176 miles 3.3 hours each way. total £70 fuel.
In previous years there would be two of us travelling so rail would be double the cost

If in the future I go to Farnborough, I think I'll drive most of the way, day before and kip in the back of the Landrover somewhere. Attend the show, drive some of the way back have another kip before travelling on..


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Better location for the nation but not any form of boating I know, must be mainly stinkpot stuff
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No mention of RYA on ego wall. Andrew Simpson foundation on there.
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First time I went to the Dinghy Exhibition as it was then, it was in some strange place called 'Piglet's Loch' or  somesuch, luckily someone else was navigating. Went a few times when it was at Crystal Palace. About 3 times to Ally Pally. Times have changed, it used to be that for many sailors, the only things happening between Xmas and March were the Show, the Pompey Persiher and the Bloody Mary. Things have changed. Back in the dark ages, it was just class associatiions (remember the spat between the 505's and the RYA about letting RS in when they hadn't sold any boats yet?) but every class association worth the name. One year a mate of mine was on the Mercury stand, when they built their 101st boat. Not sure what the point of it is now? But if the people who support it are happy  and it generates some interest, let them get on with it. Those of us who'd be intersted in a different kind of show maybe ought to make it happen?
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Picketts Lock, my first also back in the early 80s. I thought it was magical. Sadly all redeveloped
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