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    Posted: 09 Mar 19 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by PeterG


Originally posted by zeon

I am always amazed how well the py system works .

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Then there's another quote which fits here from Desiderius Erasmus, concerning one eyed men in the kingdom of the blind.
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Originally posted by PeterG

Originally posted by zeon

I am always amazed how well the py system works .

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Works fine for me  Wink  +2
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Either it works pretty well or differences between boats are relatively small (or a combination of both). The best guys pretty much always win.......
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Works fine for me too. The only time I've lost faith in the system is when an ex sailing sec at my club started changing handicaps based on local results, but forgot that data a small club generates is incredibly affected by the crew skill factor. So what we ended up with was a half way house between local PY's and a personal handicap scheme which no one liked really. The bottom line for me is that unless you can get a consensus at your club it's probably better to leave well alone.
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When I sail at home under PY as a Billy No Mates my results are pretty evenly spread through the fleet governed partly by conditions and partly by how switched on we are.

When I go to our European meetings I know who I will mostly beat, who I will fighting with and who I will have to be lucky and sharp to even worry.

This tells me that PY is working as well as I would realistically expect and crew skill is a factor more worthy of my concern than a few rating points.
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Been using it for decades. The change a decade or so ago to online returns freed things up, causing lots of moves in numbers which annoyed many ("my boat hasn't got faster") but I think it has made things more even. I have issues with the granularity, but that is small potatoes compared with the whole process, which has outlived any measurement handicap system.
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Originally posted by patj

The PY list seems to be making most things faster except the boats new racers go into which have become slower over the last few years.


Since I started looking about 5 years ago, it is true that fast boats have generally seen a PY drop and slow boats have seen the PY increase. That trend was less pronounced this year though.
This is how the PY for various classes changed from 2015-19.
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fulcrum for change right around the laser, purely down to shear numbers of returns. Wonder if you removed the laser from all returns what the playing field would look like.
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It would be more accurate if they fixed the laser and pivoted around it, all this senseless annual drifting about I swear they do it a) To justify their continued existence and b) To piss everyone off.

They should have been replaced by robots ages ago.
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