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    Posted: 23 Sep 15 at 10:01am
Well, my policy says its only valid if the boat is securely tied down to the ground. There's a pretty ugly word for making a claim if your boat was only tied to the trailer or a bucket of concrete and your policy has the same wording.

Sure its a lot of work providing secure tie downs, but if the alternative is that the boats are uninsured maybe the work is worthwhile. Most clubs seem to think so.

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Originally posted by ventus

Find four large tyres, fill with concrete and a length of chain to use as a tie down point add two strong ropes. Job done.


There's posh. Down at the Aldi end of the dinghy park we have to make do with two tyres. but to be fair it's less exposed down there.

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Originally posted by jeffers

 
Personally I would never leave my boat just tied to the trolley. I have seen a Laser picked up off a trolley and blown over before (mast down, cover on). Tied to a road base possible at a push as the road base adds weight low down and is usually wider than the boat so adds a bit more stability.

Last week in Riva del Garda we had an almight storm come through, strong enough to pick a 29er (tied to nothing) up and deposit it 30ft away in the Marina, estimate for wind speed perhaps 35 knots for 10 minutes or so

90 Musto's in the dinghy park - all tied to their trolley's only 2 fell over onto their wing - pretty good going.  Nothing else to tied boats too
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As for Noble Marine I too moved away from them a few years back. No issues with their service at all it was always excellent and settled with no issues. The reason was purely cost. They wanted an increasing amount to insure my Laser and i could no longer justify the extra expense (and with doing less sailing the 'never miss a weekend of sailing no longer applied).

No complaints with new company and I know others who have claimed from them with no issues.
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Originally posted by Caveman

Our boat park has a concrete surface. Digging holes in the ground is not a practical option. I keep my boat on its combi trailer, which is fortunately stupidly heavy. So far it has never moved despite there having been several heavy storms. The problem comes for owners of smaller dinghies sitting on light launching trolleys. They tie their boats down to concrete filled buckets. While it is much better than doing nothing boats tiled down in this way still get blown over. 

Are you allowed to drill the concrete surface and put eye bolts in? Sounds like the club should invest in doing this as regular intervals then everyone will have something solid to tie their boat down to. If this is not an option then buckets or tyres full of concrete are the way forward IMO.

Personally I would never leave my boat just tied to the trolley. I have seen a Laser picked up off a trolley and blown over before (mast down, cover on). Tied to a road base possible at a push as the road base adds weight low down and is usually wider than the boat so adds a bit more stability.
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Find four large tyres, fill with concrete and a length of chain to use as a tie down point add two strong ropes. Job done.
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....and we have a cub rule that says that no trailers are allowed to be stored in the dinghy park, so that rules out that as an option..
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Our boat park has a concrete surface. Digging holes in the ground is not a practical option. I keep my boat on its combi trailer, which is fortunately stupidly heavy. So far it has never moved despite there having been several heavy storms. The problem comes for owners of smaller dinghies sitting on light launching trolleys. They tie their boats down to concrete filled buckets. While it is much better than doing nothing boats tiled down in this way still get blown over. 
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Dig a hole and fill with concrete with a ring attached at the end of each row, then put a chain across and tie down to the chain.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by jaydub

That's a bit harsh if that was pointed at me.  


Not sure it is actually. If you can't tie your boat down to a decent anchorage you should take the mast down if you want to pay the same insurance rates as the rest of us who do tie the boats down properly. Otherwise the rest of us are subsidising you.

The club is the members, so if you point the finger at the club for not providing ground anchors then you are just pointing the finger at yourself.

I will do next time I am aware that there are 40mph+ winds forecast, now i know that the weight of a trolley isn't sufficient to hold the boat down.

Our boat is less than 18 months old and the only new boat we have owned, so I had no desire to see it damaged and thought I was taking the necessary precautions.

Trying to turn this to something more positive, I would welcome any ideas in terms of how to secure boats to hard compacted ground.  What do other clubs or individuals do?
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