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    Posted: 14 Apr 15 at 3:17pm
Originally posted by jeffers

I'll be honest. We all know Mike is commercial and he has a commercial interest in Blaze and Icon. Personally I have no problem with him posting and promoting these classes on the forum. I am sure if Mark or Mags had an issue with it they would speak to him.

If you want to see blatant commercial posting then looking at a certain choccy bar related thread on another sailing forum is the place to go with 50% of the most recent posts coming from those with a commercial interest in the class.....
I dont know that that's fair Paul,  RS have not really used the forum for a commercial perspective, more to set the record straight.  But even if they did you could hardly argue given the amount of banner space they fund!!!  That said, you live by the forum you die by the forum in terms of marketing perspective.
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Dont think anyone asked Mike to stop posting.  Just perhaps to consider that if the forum is going to be used to help sell a boat and by the very nature of the retailer posting nothing specific about the class other than to keep it top of the forum pops, then perhaps it probably right that that retailer utilises the proper channels also that help fund this site and keep it online.  Like i said earlier Mikes posts are in the most informative, and interesting in terms of development.  Classes posting about open days etc. i personally also find acceptable, but a retailer pimping and not paying is in my opinion over the line.  Hence the expression 'Buy and Ad'  help fund this space, so at least the very last place we can all dial in to read about sailing that isn't run by a bunch of knuckle dragging commercially biased Americans is actually still able to keep trading.

Less of course you would be happy for RS, P&B, Suntouched, Zhik etc. to all also stop spending and utilise a forum (whilst it existed) to sell their brands?  

Just a thought, I would rather have this site than not one at all and lets face it folks without advertises this place just wouldn't exists! So in my opinion buy and Ad, post away, just dont expect to utilise the forum as a commercial space if you are not even willing to part fund it!!!
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Keep posting, Mike.
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I'll be honest. We all know Mike is commercial and he has a commercial interest in Blaze and Icon. Personally I have no problem with him posting and promoting these classes on the forum. I am sure if Mark or Mags had an issue with it they would speak to him.

If you want to see blatant commercial posting then looking at a certain choccy bar related thread on another sailing forum is the place to go with 50% of the most recent posts coming from those with a commercial interest in the class.....
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I'm also on Mike's side on this one. I have found his posts both informative and balanced with no aggressive promoting of his boats, by which I mean he hasn't resorted to slating the opposition. We all know who he is and what he builds so let's treat Mike in the professional manner in which he deserves to be treated.
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Agree with the above. I find the enthusiasm of Mike's post quite infectious. To be fair a number of his posts that have promoted Cirrus boats encourage us to try the competition to make the comparison.
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Agreed

The changes and evolution of the Blaze, Halo and Fire (and the Icon) are interesting to lots of us - keep us all updated please
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Mike

Just ignore this and post what you like. 

There have been lots of comments from people with commercial or quasi commercial interests on this forum and as long as its clear there is some connection its no problem. 

 Everyone regularly on here knows your connection to the blaze and the icon and its good having someone knowledgeable who will speak up when people ask a question. 

 Just put Cirrus Raceboats in your tag line and say what you will. If Mark J thinks someone is out of order from this perspective then I am sure he would have a word. Its not up to any of us to 'police' whats on here and much of your input is well appreciated.
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Originally posted by blaze720

I know many whoever's left may say 'pot kettle black', but since when was this forum a channel to be seen to champion ones own class- beyond the normal levels of banter and rivalry one might expect in a virtual boat park?

LOL .... Absolutely classic response Mr TT ... and beyond any appreciation of irony whatsoever ! 

and taken in isolation I guess you could make more of that sentence than it says, but hey, whatever, nice deflection.  

The fact that you decided to pick up on this aspect, rather than say, the considered use of a generic she, or the actual suggested content 'she' might offer to add something to the forum before pimping on it like a paid troll, says an awful lot about where your (and by association) the Blaze class's priorities lie with respect to this community.  

Anyway, that's close-hauled enough to 'forum police' for my liking, so over to you and whichever sucker you can get to fan-boy the scaffolding and faded topper logos of your one design fleet.  
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I know many whoever's left may say 'pot kettle black', but since when was this forum a channel to be seen to champion ones own class- beyond the normal levels of banter and rivalry one might expect in a virtual boat park?

LOL .... Absolutely classic response Mr TT ... and beyond any appreciation of irony whatsoever ! 
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