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catmandoo 
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 Topic: Four races donePosted: 12 Sep 13 at 6:47pm |
Did effectively for two to three seasons when my buddy and i both had hurricane 5.9s we ended up match racing each due to our over competitiveness , right down to prestart shenanigans , pushing each other out at marks , crash tacking ( soon learned not to do that ! ) pushing each other to the limits when windy untill someone would capsize , it was exhausting but great fun , he went on to come 2nd in nationals . Not such a silly idea to match race darts , but something faster and evenly matched may be better . |
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Contender443
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 8:52pm |
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I don't care if Ben is onboard I still want NZ to win the Cup!
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Bonnie Lass Contender 1764
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Owenfackrell
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Posted: 12 Sep 13 at 10:59pm |
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After Oracle won that race one of the writers on sail world made the comment that Oracle beat ETNZ when they (oracle) performed a faultless race where as ENTZ had made quite a lot of mistakes. This seems to be true after watching race 7. They now only need 3 wins verses 10 for Oracle.
I have been a Kiwi supporter from the off as they at least have the Union Jack as part of their flag and I like how thief boat looks. |
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lambert
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Posted: 13 Sep 13 at 3:04pm |
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I think that the upwind legs have always been rucial for the race at least going back to 1995 monohull. At that time, I remember a French skipper (to explain their poor performances !) saying that a better angle of 0.5 degree was enough to win with similar speed.
It appears that this "rule" is still true with the AC72 and that ETNZ has the better design with technical compromises focussed on upwind efficiency.
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ifoxwell
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Posted: 16 Sep 13 at 9:30am |
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I dare some one to come on line now and tell us all that the last two races weren't great.
A spectacle that my mum could enjoy Exciting boats that my daughter can enjoy and some fantastic racing, upwind and down, to keep me glued to the screen. I think if Elison and his team had a view to what they wanted the Americas cup to be then yesterdays racing was it. I'm a convert. If they can just reduce the costs so that we have ten teams trying to win it then they have my vote. Ian
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Rupert
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Posted: 16 Sep 13 at 10:39am |
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Yesterday had me glued to the screen. Will be bunging it on iplayer when the kids have done their homework later!
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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getafix
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Posted: 16 Sep 13 at 3:27pm |
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Ever since Oracle got spanked and washed off the other race they have come back and made this a whole lot more interesting. Actual racing. Proper drama. Some real 'stick' in the pre-starts. Even some place-changing downwind in r10. Good show!
I stick by my comments on the 'action' before this, very much a procession in earlier races, thankfully not the case more recently. Edited by getafix - 16 Sep 13 at 3:29pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Posted: 16 Sep 13 at 3:40pm |
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very magnanimous of you.
will you change your mind again when / if the tide is on the Flood next time and the course becomes single lane traffic only?! |
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ifoxwell
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Posted: 16 Sep 13 at 3:46pm |
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As long as its a windward / leeward, then they have to take upwind single sided or not. As long as the chase boat can get out of sequence there will still be passing lanes, possibly even more as more tacks will mean more opportunities.
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yellowwelly
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Posted: 16 Sep 13 at 4:03pm |
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well it's changed my irrational prejudice towards cats and tactical cat racing, but unfortunately it's amplfied a new one... it's curtains for asymmetric kites... one for dinghy development.
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