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    Posted: 25 Jun 13 at 10:09am
Originally posted by transient


"there's an awful lot of ****ing experts around here lately".


Ha - the boat park guru - I've met so many and the trouble is the ones that really do know, say nothing, keep schtum which keeps them at the front of the fleet...

When I first started, the absolute bollox I got advised from folk you would think should know, and everyone wonders why I never listen...

Occasionally I get some genuine snippets, this only 8 years in and only after I have managed to beat the b**tards by luck or the occasional good judgement, then of course you read stuff here, but this place isn't always exactly on the money...

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Honestly, driving 50-100 miles to race in a fleet of 10 fast boats just doesn't appeal. Thats why if i was to get a faster boat it would be a contender, yes its overweight and a little outdated but 20-25 boat fleets at open meetings makes sense.

Clive, I fear you are bending the facts to support your argument here.

Lets look at the last 3 opens.

Contender: Highcliff 20, Pevensey 14, Eastbourne 25 = 19.6 Average

Musto: Stokes Bay 23, Stone 16, Datchet 13 = 17.3 Average

So I'd say similar turnouts not the factor of 2x you are presenting.

Plus the Musto Seems to have a slightly better recent track record on nationals looking at the Y&Y table

Given the Musto has far less boats built it looks a far more active class.

Originally posted by Clive Evans


Yes the musto has always appealed but we are talking thousands of pounds for one and the risk that the superdooper6000 comes along and suddenly mustos are 800 quid. 

Well the class has been around 14 years, been granted ISAF status and can put 100 boats on the start line for a Worlds, I hardly think the class is likely to implode as you imply...

I'm aware that the Musto has ISAF status I processed the application whilst working at ISAF!

It wasn't the musto I was referring to at all, it's a good boat and well supported but there are a great deal of singlehanders that suffer from poor turnouts and depreciated values, we had a vortex once and look at them now 10 boat events 800 quid
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Originally posted by Clive Evans

 
Originally posted by Clive Evans

Yes the musto has always appealed but we are talking thousands of pounds for one and the risk that the superdooper6000 comes along and suddenly mustos are 800 quid. 

It wasn't the musto I was referring to at all ... we had a vortex once and look at them now 10 boat events 800 quid

Well it certainly looks like the above quote refers to the Musto Confused


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Originally posted by transient


"there's an awful lot of ****ing experts around here lately".


Ha - the boat park guru - I've met so many and the trouble is the ones that really do know, say nothing, keep schtum which keeps them at the front of the fleet...



We have several ex champs and Olympic Campaigners who are/were bloody good sailors, they will tell you if you've left your bung out or there's fishing nets out there but they don't offer advice unless it's asked for, good advice and not over egged either.......a skill in itself.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 13 at 10:44am
The problem I find, as a consummate boat hopper, it's very difficult to get anyone to even commit, because the sport is so class specific when it comes to the things I need to know, it's also so alien to everything my experience over the years has dictated.

There's a huge 'settings' culture and fixation on things like kickers and tel tales, that, if you focus to greatly on leads you often to miss the bigger picture imv.

Then when you're trying to sail totally new stuff that no-ones heard about and teaching yourself at the same time I guess it's a big ask.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Clive Evans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 13 at 10:57am
Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by Clive Evans

 
Originally posted by Clive Evans

Yes the musto has always appealed but we are talking thousands of pounds for one and the risk that the superdooper6000 comes along and suddenly mustos are 800 quid. 

It wasn't the musto I was referring to at all ... we had a vortex once and look at them now 10 boat events 800 quid

Well it certainly looks like the above quote refers to the Musto Confused

Ha ha just reread busted! Eating humble pie
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2547 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jun 13 at 2:22pm
Originally posted by Clive Evans

Originally posted by 2547

Originally posted by Clive Evans

 
Originally posted by Clive Evans

Yes the musto has always appealed but we are talking thousands of pounds for one and the risk that the superdooper6000 comes along and suddenly mustos are 800 quid. 

It wasn't the musto I was referring to at all ... we had a vortex once and look at them now 10 boat events 800 quid

Well it certainly looks like the above quote refers to the Musto Confused

Ha ha just reread busted! Eating humble pie

Fair enough, I often wonder what damage is done by incorrect statements on forums presented by the poster as "facts" ...
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Depends who's posting really doesn't it and a 'fact' to one point view might not be correct to someone else's.

Here's one, 'the Musto Skiff is impossible to sail above a force four' fact.

Now someone heavier and more experienced would argue against that 'fact'.

But then if you actually have to ask, (which suggests lack of experience) which 'fact' should you believe?


Here's another one.. 'Anyone who sails a Solo has given up on their dreams.' Fact.

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Originally posted by iGRF

Depends who's posting really doesn't it and a 'fact' to one point view might not be correct to someone else's.

Here's one, 'the Musto Skiff is impossible to sail above a force four' fact.

Now someone heavier and more experienced would argue against that 'fact'.

But then if you actually have to ask, (which suggests lack of experience) which 'fact' should you believe?

If fear you are confusing opinions with facts ...

fact  

Noun
  1. A thing that is indisputably the case.

opinion  

Noun
  1. A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.


I know you consider all your opinions to be facts but I afraid in the real world that is not the case.



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Agreed ... Solo Fact true is yoda grf...  LOL
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