Icon Class Association

Originally posted by JimC [ Needs saying again. PY is a service to the clubs, not the builders.

And the clubs are full of what? Members, members who have just had their key asset devalued by the 'experimental' actions of this bloody PYAG.

So here, right now as Commodore of one of those so called clubs you are providing a service for, with all due respect, you are not doing a very good job, certainly not for us coastal clubs, bring your very best down here put them in an Icon and our Merlin sailors will run rings round them, the very moment they raise their kite.

Honestly 1020 - 1010 - reasonable, 1020 - 1000 even, harsh but could be explained, 1020 to 969 smacks of a vendetta. I wonder, has anybody on that committee even looked at an Icon, never mind raced against one.

Here anyone remember this, three icons raced against quite a few of us many of whom were quite well matched helms and across light to medium winds, inland, I didn't notice Icons having it away at 1020..


Edited by iGRF - 09 Apr 14 at 9:06am

The only real time I've raced against an Icon was at the Datchet Flyer last year. We started together in the Sunday pursuit race and the leading Icon and I were never separated by more than a few boatlengths for the whole race. The Icon was a little faster upwind, the 300 a bit quicker downwind.

Originally posted by tgruitt Originally posted by iGRF Originally posted by JimC [ Needs saying again. PY is a service to the clubs, not the builders. And the clubs are full of what? Members, members who have just had their key asset devalued by the 'experimental' actions of this bloody PYAG. So here, right now as Commodore of one of those so called clubs you are providing a service for, with all due respect, you are not doing a very good job, certainly not for us coastal clubs, bring your very best down here put them in an Icon and our Merlin sailors will run rings round them, the very moment they raise their kite. Honestly 1020 - 1010 - reasonable, 1020 - 1000 even, harsh but could be explained, 1020 to 969 smacks of a vendetta. I wonder, has anybody on that committee even looked at an Icon, never mind raced against one. Here anyone remember this, three icons raced against quite a few of us many of whom were quite well matched helms and across light to medium winds, inland, I didn't notice Icons having it away at 1020.. The man talks sense.

Originally posted by Chris 249 If you take a boat and add 12% more sail, about 4% more waterline length and about 40 years of design progress, how much speed do you expect to add?

Edited by yellowwelly - 09 Apr 14 at 11:21am

Originally posted by Chris 249 If you take a boat and add 12% more sail, about 4% more waterline length and about 40 years of design progress, how much speed do you expect to add? It's interesting to see Jeffers' statement that the Icon should not be expected to play with 'Balls or Contenders. In Oz the Tasar is on the same yardstick as the Contenders, which rate below the 'Ball, but the Tasars seem to do quite well against both of them.