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    Posted: 29 Jul 10 at 12:26pm
Originally posted by Peaky

Originally posted by timg


Nice pics....I get my new one for Federation Week, should be a good
event.


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Does this mean you are getting another D-One Tim?



Careful what you say next tim...

you're beginning to sound like a works team rider..
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Originally posted by turnturtle

Perceptions are weird things- the published LOA is greater on an RS100, 4.23m on the D-One vs
4.30 on the 100. And the max beam (light weight setting) is only 24cm wider on each side on
the D-One compared to the 100,

that is quite significant, in trapeze terms its like comparing the righting moment of a 6fter with someone 5ft2.5
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Originally posted by haroosh

I managed to get a go of the D-1 after racing last night and it
Was really interesting jumping straight out of the 100 into it.
First impression was simply the size. Its a big boat and with
A lot of freeboard plus wings you sit a along way off the water
Compared with the 100. There is no doubt its a good bit
Quicker upwind than my 8.4 rig 100. The track took
A bit of getting used to but worked well enough. The main
Is a incredibly powerful but I felt confident with the
Feeling of huge leverage hiking off the wings.
Downwind was a different story and maybe it was just that boat but
I feel the 100 was easier to hoist and drop and no obvious
Difference in speed but it was all very subjective I suppose.
I found the drop not quite as easy as I struggled to collect
The slack in the downhaul before tripping the uphaul cleat as
I was pulling the from same block but just the other side.
On the 100 the downhaul is from the back end of the chute and
You can gather then trip the uphaul. The other thing that
Little annoying thing was chute running all the way back on the
Port side. I kept catching my feet on it but maybe that's just the
Rigging on that particular boat.
Chatting in the bar afterwards the boat really did divide
Opinion on looks but I must admit it has eally grown on me.
However for my sub 70kg weight I feel I have the right boat but I was really
Quite impressed with the D1 and I can see why people are
Getting excited about it. The build quality is absolutely superb.
The great thing about the club race last night was we finally had
The 100, Vareo and D1 all on the water together.
Cheers,
Keith

 

I recently purchased the other UK ex demo boat and had similar problems recovering the kite.  The reason became clear during a gybe when the downhaul wrapped around the pole!  It then dawned on me that I was basically sailing a 'new' boat which hadn't been set up to individual needs - the one you sailed may well be the same.

With regard to catching your feet on the chute - I did exactly the same first time out and was very concious of it being there which I think was due to being a tad hesitant getting on to the wing.  Now I don't notice it at all so I guess I'm just stepping straight out on to the wing.

Here's the changes I've made:

1) Shorten genny halyard by 450mm.

2) Add an extra packing wedge under the mainsheet jammer (probably because I'm sailing with wide wings)

3) Replace kicker and downhaul control lines - originals just too short.

4) Shorten the traveller control lines.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Jul 10 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by Peaky

Originally posted by timg

Nice pics....I get my new one for Federation Week, should be a good event.

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Does this mean you are getting another D-One Tim?

Not another one....just a trade in, for one of those carbon insert ones

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Originally posted by KeithF

Originally posted by haroosh

I managed to get a go of the D-1 after racing last night and it
Was really interesting jumping straight out of the 100 into it.
First impression was simply the size. Its a big boat and with
A lot of freeboard plus wings you sit a along way off the water
Compared with the 100. There is no doubt its a good bit
Quicker upwind than my 8.4 rig 100. The track took
A bit of getting used to but worked well enough. The main
Is a incredibly powerful but I felt confident with the
Feeling of huge leverage hiking off the wings.
Downwind was a different story and maybe it was just that boat but
I feel the 100 was easier to hoist and drop and no obvious
Difference in speed but it was all very subjective I suppose.
I found the drop not quite as easy as I struggled to collect
The slack in the downhaul before tripping the uphaul cleat as
I was pulling the from same block but just the other side.
On the 100 the downhaul is from the back end of the chute and
You can gather then trip the uphaul. The other thing that
Little annoying thing was chute running all the way back on the
Port side. I kept catching my feet on it but maybe that's just the
Rigging on that particular boat.
Chatting in the bar afterwards the boat really did divide
Opinion on looks but I must admit it has eally grown on me.
However for my sub 70kg weight I feel I have the right boat but I was really
Quite impressed with the D1 and I can see why people are
Getting excited about it. The build quality is absolutely superb.
The great thing about the club race last night was we finally had
The 100, Vareo and D1 all on the water together.
Cheers,
Keith

 

I recently purchased the other UK ex demo boat and had similar problems recovering the kite.  The reason became clear during a gybe when the downhaul wrapped around the pole!  It then dawned on me that I was basically sailing a 'new' boat which hadn't been set up to individual needs - the one you sailed may well be the same.

With regard to catching your feet on the chute - I did exactly the same first time out and was very concious of it being there which I think was due to be a tad hesitant getting on to the wing.  Now I don't notice it at all so I guess I'm just stepping straight out on to the wing.

Here's the changes I've made:

1) Shorten genny halyard by 450mm.

2) Add an extra packing wedge under the mainsheet jammer (probably because I'm sailing with wide wings)

3) Replace kicker and downhaul control lines - originals just too short.

4) Shorten the traveller control lines.

yep shortening the halyard is a grand job, works a treat.

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The other thing that I really noticed in the D1 compared with the 100 is with the increased freeboard and wings I really felt like I was sitting much higher off the water. It was quite an odd feeling initially as I am so familiar with the 100 now.

In terms of Grahams point about the mainsheet I have never had any problems with the rear mainsheet on the 100 so didnt feel any benefit with the D1 set up. both work really well.

I think the mods suggested by the other Keith are all good mods that would address the minor issues I have with my first sail in it.

Cheers,

Keith

 
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Originally posted by haroosh

The other thing that I really noticed in the D1 compared with the 100 is with the increased freeboard and wings I really felt like I was sitting much higher off the water. It was quite an odd feeling initially as I am so familiar with the 100 now.

In terms of Grahams point about the mainsheet I have never had any problems with the rear mainsheet on the 100 so didnt feel any benefit with the D1 set up. both work really well.

I think the mods suggested by the other Keith are all good mods that would address the minor issues I have with my first sail in it.

Cheers,

Keith

 

Hi Keith,

Glad you enjoyed your outing.

I hope you moved the wings to the outer setting to gain the benefit of extra leverage....we had some really light people at the regattas and they can keep up with the heavier crews upwind, so it really works.

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Just to let you all know that a few of the D-One fleet are planning to compete at Chichester Harbour Federation Week.  Come and say hello if you are there (there may even be some funds left in the beer pot, on second thoughts, knowing the D-One lot there may not be ).  This should be an excellent test of the accuracy of the D-One manufacturer's recomended PY.

HISC have kindly agreed that we can offer test sails during the week.  Let me know if you would like to try the D-One during the course of the week and I will make the necessary arrangements.  Competitors, HISC members and visitors are all welcome. My Email is rodney@suntouched.co.uk or mobile is 07734 251033.

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Currently racing with 5 other D-Ones at Hayling Island SC Federation Week.

Racing has been fantastic, and finally getting a chance to race properly against UK D-Ones and also RS100's.

I have been having fantastic racing with local sailor Nick Peters in the RS100 but the others are quite a few minutes behind on the water.

I wish we could so windward / leeward courses!!!

This RTC stuff is a killer....go wrong in the tide and you can lose 2-3 minutes lead.

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