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    Posted: 10 Nov 14 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by fab100

Originally posted by Rupert

According to GRF, they win everything at Hythe, so why not elsewhere?

and they clear Hythe's waters of mackerel at the same time too allegedly

you forgot to mention they float higher too Clive.

I was chatting to colleague today that we feel rather shortchanged not to have got our Mattel Hoverboards by now.  Michael J Fox has a lot to answer for when we catch up with him.

Perhaps the answer is I just need to buy another laser and go sail down at Hythe....  
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Originally posted by SimonW99

Interesting discussion down the club.

Everyone can sail anything they like in a series and be counted. The score is attached to the Helm and they have the handicap of whatever they sailed in that race. Has anyone run a series on this basis?

Obvious downside is those who are serious by a quiver of boats and sails !


We did for years. It worked fine till people started using it as a way of winning, rather than a way of simply getting out onto the water. Now you have it counted as a seperate set of results. Still not sure changing back was the right decision, but I was gone from the committee by then.

I'd far rather have the former, and have any boat allowed, than the latter but allow multi rigged boats to swap and keep the fatest handicap. Mind, we don't allow that, either.
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Like the sound of that Simon- it makes sense to me!
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Yes JimC @4.35 and Simon. That's the view we have taken

"FWIW our club has chosen that the points will follow the Sailor, whatever they sail or if they are crew or helm. We have decided to go all out for rewarding participation."

We included crews as well, to recognise what an equal partnership it is, allow a crew to jump in to another boat if regular ride is absent and still get rewarded and not disadvantage the regular single handed sailor when press ganged into getting someone off the shore who would otherwise not be able to sail that day. Phew overlong sentence! 

We could easily see a crew win a series, how great would that be! Especially ref. the demise of the two person boat string.

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We do the same as at Simon's club
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Originally posted by Do Different

"FWIW our club has chosen that the points will follow the Sailor, whatever they sail or if they are crew or helm. We have decided to go all out for rewarding participation."

We included crews as well, to recognise what an equal partnership it is, allow a crew to jump in to another boat if regular ride is absent and still get rewarded and not disadvantage the regular single handed sailor when press ganged into getting someone off the shore who would otherwise not be able to sail that day. Phew overlong sentence! 

We could easily see a crew win a series, how great would that be! Especially ref. the demise of the two person boat string.

That is pretty avant garde, but I like the sound of it. Certainly good for motivating crews.  Not sure it delights me as a Sailwave series scorer, mind you.

How long have you been running things like that and how is it working out?
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Saw an Aero in the flesh on Sunday and it looks a nice boat, very tidy. I can see the 7 being very popular and maybe finally taking over from the Laser. Those foils are nice and sharp! Hopefully a bit more wind this weekend to see its form.
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Actually the idea to adopt was proposed by our Sailwave manager. Principally so as not to see our juniors who mostly sail single handers disadvantaged by occasionally crewing either for each other or an adult.

We are trying to rebuild our racing numbers, hence the focus on participation and any extra labour required to input to Sailwave is not too arduous.

Of course any system could be used cynically if anyone was so inclined. We are a small Club untroubled by a cut-throat pot hunting faction so don't really see a problem arising and if it did everyone would know and treat such victories accordingly. 

   
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You don't get crews jumping ship to one more suited to the weather, then?
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Not that I've noticed and certainly not to play the system. As I've said,yes some could but my attitude to anyone who thought overly much about such tactics would be a big "get a life". We are rewarding participation simple as that. No system is perfect but I think this suits our situation and ethos. In a Club where pot hunting is all maybe it would have all the joy sucked out of it.
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