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    Posted: 03 Mar 10 at 8:03am

If you read Nick's feedback the vision is that the RS100 could go the laser/radial route with 2 distinct classes hence the 2 PY's. Time will tell what the difference between the rigs is.

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I think that the issue of two PY's in club sailing is running away with itself. At Largs the Laser fleet starts off one start - if you sail with the Radial sail it is off the radial handicap and Full sail off the full handicap. The boat gets the result in a single set of Laser results (i.e you choose which rig and when and sail with the relevant handicap on the day). No one complains and it should work the same in the handicap fleets. Generally the heavy guys sail with the big sail and the lighter guys with small sail with very little rig swapping - except in very windy conditions. (hopefully we'll get one design sailing quickly anyway if Nick and the boys keep going at the rate of sales they are doing now)

In my opinion Nick/ RS are rght to drive the boat down the Full/ Radial (separate classes) route as when the RS100 takes of internationally it will become the interesting alternative to Laser sailing and encourage light and heavy sailors to join the class. (all the better for residual values!)

Suggest the smaller rig has either different colour numbers or a roundal to identify it from the big rig. When you sign on note the ID mark too.

For open's, nationals and internationals it should be two classes, one of which is entered for the entire series with no swapping. (maybe just one start initially)

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id thats the vision then it should have been released as 2 boats, is the the rs 100 and the (rs100 power) the laser was arond before the radial and 4.7 comparing the 2 is completely different its the same boat so should have the same PY.

 

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I think the 100 is out selling very other rs boat that was built in the same time scale be good to see at the end of the year how many are sold and how much if any came onto the 2 nd market at the end of the year would they be worth more or less when bought.As at the moment it seems as if poor old jim cant make them quick enough in thialand.

I think its great to see the class doing so well already and james i still think you will be the rep for the fleet.And i am sure nick thinks the same.

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Originally posted by Neal_g

id thats the vision then it should have been released as 2 boats, is the the rs 100 and the (rs100 power) the laser was arond before the radial and 4.7 comparing the 2 is completely different its the same boat so should have the same PY.

 

Neal,

Its my understanding that it has essentially been released as 2 boats with 2 different PY's. That what RS are telling us. The RS100 (8.4) and (10.2). To repeat myself I think Nick's email summarises their plans for the class perfectly.

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I guess that means that while the 2 trial PY's are close, they are just that - a trial. Once returns start coming in, they may get further apart, or they may get even closer if the small sail is better upwind in a breeze. I should think we shall see people at club level doing what they do in the Laser - bunging the small rig on when the breeze kicks in.

Really looking forward to seeing how this year pans out for the class, despite having no real wish to own one myself. Watching the forum baby grow up, I suppose!

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Originally posted by Rupert

I guess that means that while the 2 trial PY's are close, they are just that - a trial. Once returns start coming in, they may get further apart, or they may get even closer if the small sail is better upwind in a breeze. I should think we shall see people at club level doing what they do in the Laser - bunging the small rig on when the breeze kicks in.

Really looking forward to seeing how this year pans out for the class, despite having no real wish to own one myself. Watching the forum baby grow up, I suppose!

I actually think alot of people may be opting for 1 rig anyway. I know I am.

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Originally posted by Merlinboy

This is of kind of my pont.  Why does it need to have 2 PY's??    

OK, well I'll race you round the Top Gear track then.  You can have a 1.6 litre Ford Focus and I'll have the 2.5 litre with 300 bhp, and we'll see who wins

 

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Originally posted by asterix

Originally posted by Merlinboy

This is of kind of my pont.  Why does it need to have 2 PY's??    

OK, well I'll race you round the Top Gear track then.  You can have a 1.6 litre Ford Focus and I'll have the 2.5 litre with 300 bhp, and we'll see who wins



To make it more realistic, you both get the same amount of fuel - but only enough for the low power one to get round the track.

Because in sailing you can only use 'so much' power, all the extra is spilled.



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On the 2-rig front - for sure, think of them as 2 different classes - that is the long-term vision: and of course, Keith is right - the majority of sailors are buying one sail - and in many of the instances of a buyer having both it is often for another member of the family.

In the case of our esteemed Communications rep James, he wants to maximise enjoyment of the boat and having the 8.4 will mean he can sail when others might be ashore. and when time is precious, that is good thinking.

 

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