RS aero

According to GRF, they win everything at Hythe, so why not elsewhere?

I think you boys are getting way over excited about rig switching. I just haven't seen enough of it to consider it has much effect on the yardstick calcs.

I don't know that we have enough data to make many assumptions, but at my own club I have observed that the distribution curve for Laser results is much more skewed than for Solos and RS200s, the other classes for which I had reasonable data when I did the analysis. Although the spread of finishing times for all three classes was much the same, The top Lasers weren't as far ahead of the average Lasers as was the case in Solos and RS200s, but the below average the performance was much more spread out. The result of this would be that if we set a club handicap that put the top Laser winning as many races as the top Solo or RS, then the majority of the Laser fleet was ridiculously advantaged.
As an example, I just rescored a recent major series at our club. If I put the Laser on 1135 and the Solo staying on 1148 the best Solo still wins the series, but Lasers finish 2nd, 3rd, 7th and 9th up from 4th, 8th, 10th and 13th.

If you asked me what I think "right" results would have been, well of course how do you know, but if pressed I'd have said say something like 2nd, 5th, 10th and 14th wouldn't have been a mile away...

Edited by JimC - 08 Nov 14 at 3:17pm

Originally posted by kneewrecker Originally posted by Blue One Originally posted by kneewrecker It amuses me that you think the two are not directly connected.... if everyone switches rigs, then really, there is only need for one central EN, with local adjustment if the club deem it appropriate.   Not that will happen- people tend gravitate towards one rig in the long term, thus creating a statistical anomaly if a small minority continue to switch about.   As I said, it's about rig swapping and how CLUBS do returns not the system itself. Glad you find it amusing. Your posts always have the same effect on me. Well, I shake my head and then burst out laughing . Logically, the various systems employed by the clubs to police the fun vs stringent class rules dichotomy and the overall PY system are co-dependent.  One does not work without the other.   Where we do agree is not to overly worry about it too much- you politely reference custard creams, I just call it spreadsheet racing*, but the essence is very much the same.   It's as good a system as any for taking grossly different boats and adding a competitive element to toddling about in them.   (* you will see a softened lexicon - even acknowledging it as racing, rather than 'spreadsheet sailing'; you see Duncan, you can positively influence me  )

Glad to see you chilling out a little, but I think it would take a better man than me to have a positive influence on you.

Originally posted by kneewrecker   You make a very good point, I consider myself chastised for my lack of vision, and momentary lapse of respect for a 505, helmed, of course, by a really hot lingerie model with the sailing reportoire of an Ainslie training partner...

Edited by Chris 249 - 08 Nov 14 at 7:56pm

At the club I used to sail at, we had a number of older gentlemen who would sail a full rig but in the really windy stuff would struggle and so would rather not sail.  The general consensus was that they could use a radial rig but would be handicapped for the full rig.