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    Posted: 18 Jun 12 at 1:24pm
Go on the 300 yahoo group. Some of the top 300 sailors are ex (some still current) Contender sailors. You should get an informed opinion there.
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I did a light wind race yesterday in a really tippy old moth, where I had to sit in a little bunch right at the front of the boat.  It was hell.  I have no idea where I came.  I would have been far more comfortable in my contender, lying across the spacious cockpit yet still far forward enough to lift the stern.  Sure I might not have done very well on handicap, but I wouldn't have needed the full body massage I do now to ease my aches after being so scrunched up.
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Well, when it doubt let google fight it out.
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Originally posted by winging it

I would have been far more comfortable in my contender, lying across the spacious cockpit yet still far forward enough to lift the stern.  

sure, but you'd be far more comfortable in nice cushioned chair in Starbucks reading the Culture section of the Sunday Times sipping caramel flavoured, extra shot Lattes.... or in the pub drinking ale, just to keep this forum suitably butch and manly.

Lightwind sailing is one thing, no wind drifting lying across foredecks.... no thanks.
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the thing about contender class racing is there is a sensible 5kt cut off under which we do not race - so no real drifters. If it's that light and you're doing handicap racing, well, you need your head tested whatever you're in.

mine's a double shot skinny latte, it's caffe nero, never starbucks, and always the observer, on my kindle..
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Originally posted by winging it

the thing about contender class racing is there is a sensible 5kt cut off under which we do not race - so no real drifters. If it's that light and you're doing handicap racing, well, you need your head tested whatever you're in.

mine's a double shot skinny latte, it's caffe nero, never starbucks, and always the observer, on my kindle..

Clap all round... esp. 5 knot rule
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Originally posted by winging it

 and always the observer, on my kindle..

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I can see 5 knots on the sea, where tide will take you away, but on a pond, you are just removing a skillset from the class. Sailing in just a drop of breeze is as much of a skill as sailing in 25 knots.
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Originally posted by Rupert

I can see 5 knots on the sea, where tide will take you away, but on a pond, you are just removing a skillset from the class. Sailing in just a drop of breeze is as much of a skill as sailing in 25 knots.

aye it is captain.  But it's also feckin' boring for us without the skills and carrying the extra cargo.   LOL
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<5knts - my boats get TLC, there's always something you've been putting off that are much better done than attempting to sail in that rubbish
 
... if it's a regatta and you have to go out, I've found turning into 2-Tack-Tony often pays as you lose so much boatspeed tacking upwind in most boats it rarely pays*. 
 
*Of course, if you have a steed well suited to roll-tacking, then that's always amusing up to a point.  Tide changes such considerations also.  If the venue's tidal and you can't get into the top 3, boat bimbling and beer takes precedence IMO!
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