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    Posted: 05 Jan 12 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by Daniel Holman

.....That kind of job is 10h all things being equal.  


Ahhh there in lies the problem, it probably was repaired in under 10 hours! after putting a little pressure on as to when we would get the mast back. I got the feeling it probably left the workshop still curing!
I wouldn't be surprised if it only took 3 hours in total, only glad that cost wise i have not paid. Not sure its even worth putting the fittings back on pretty sure the sail is going to need luff recut - not worth it methinks!
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Like a few other posters I'm baffled as to why you apparently went ahead with the repair when the quote was considerably more than the cost of a brand new mast Confused  At least you didn't pay!  You may still be effectively out of pocket if the mast was repairable before this botched attempt.
 
You have nothing to lose by sending pictures to known reputable repairers of these masts (Chipstow and Synthesize spring to mind) and see if they think it could be put right and at what cost.
 
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Originally posted by MikeBz

Like a few other posters I'm baffled as to why you apparently went ahead with the repair when the quote was considerably more than the cost of a brand new mast Confused  At least you didn't pay!  You may still be effectively out of pocket if the mast was repairable before this botched attempt.
 
You have nothing to lose by sending pictures to known reputable repairers of these masts (Chipstow and Synthesize spring to mind) and see if they think it could be put right and at what cost.
 
Mike
Remember this was from a total write off/salvage - the insurance paid out in full. We were told by several repairs that the mast was repairable. We used this company as we know them and have done work for them and seen some of their dinghies and car parts which always look good.
We had an agreement on some work we did in August that they would repair our mast and deck in return for some of our gear, after waiting 3 months we got a bit tetchy and the reply  I posted here was their response. Their original price when we were working out the like for like was £600 including a deck repair (which is excellent - no complaints there). I get the feeling that they are very last minute and as we are in the 'mates' category we can be forgotten about and not get the highest quality repairs or finishing - the hull needed a little finishing before painting)
So lesson learnt.  Ouch No free work and no friends or family
We have sent photos to chipstow.
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From a so called professional that is truly awful. How could he let it out of his shop looking like that? 
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When I was working as a boatbuilder on a yard, if I had done a repair like that, I would have been sacked!!! And I would not feel hard done by if I had been. I showed the pictures to a colleague at work, who used to do carbon repairs on aircraft, and he likewise, was shocked.

I would not pay, and would not use them again after that repair....

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I'd just like to add three points....

1. Carbonology had NOTHING to do with that mast... 
2. Carbonology has never been paid for repairing that mast... (See 1.)
3. Carbonology does not do boat repairs or mast repairs and we never have.

Please get your facts straight before you kick off.

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Originally posted by Dave Chiz

I'd just like to add three points....

1. Carbonology had NOTHING to do with that mast... 
2. Carbonology has never been paid for repairing that mast... (See 1.)
3. Carbonology does not do boat repairs or mast repairs and we never have.

Please get your facts straight before you kick off.

Kind regards and happy new year to you all.


This is true, apologies for any confusion. This is not about who did the repair it's about how to make it RIGHT. Thanks to those who have suggested companies we are waiting for the expert replies Smile
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Can we play a guessing game... Does the repairer start with an "R"?
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Guessing games of that kind are always best avoided... we've already had one guessing game cause problems...
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In the same instance Jim, it's a completely appauling repair and you do get shows on BBC such as rip off Britain and ones about cowboy builders that name and shame. £2k for that job is a bloody liberty, especially where it's meant to be for a mate. In addition, would stop us actually jumping to conclusions and thinking that the wrong guy did it. What happens to the next guy who walks into that boatbuilders and actually foots the bill for it? I'd lose sleep about him our her and not the "cowboy" builder. Think about it, that's a £2k mast repair, what about buying a £20k 14? That's before you even consider the safety implications.
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