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    Posted: 18 Mar 09 at 4:20pm
Duties are RO, RA, Safety boat safety boat crew, bar and galley.

If you put down for one (assuming you are qualified) you don't do others.

I'll do 2-3 RO duties in a year.

Safety boat and crew seem to end up with more - because there are less qualified to do them.

Work parties are outside scope of club duties.
Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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We have about 250 memberships (many are families so more than one member if you like per membership).

The general aim is for two duties per year for Race Officer, Assistant Race Officer, Galley. We also have an old traditional work boat which we use for rescue cover on long distance races mainly for towing if the wind drops off.

Our Rescue boats are manned by a team of volunteers all qualified to a minimum of Powerboat level 2 and most qualified to Club Safety Boat level, and they typically do 6 duties per year.



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 Seems to me you are looking at it from the wrong end.         &n bsp;         &n bsp;         &n bsp;   How many duty slots need filling. How many people available to do them and the rest is simple arithmatic.

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At Brightlingsea SC it's 4 duties (rescue or OOD) a year.  If you sail every weekend then I don't think that's too much to ask.  But if you only don't sail that much due to time contraints then it all becomes a bit of a vicious circle - a significant proportion of the odd weekends you have free for sailing you don't get to sail 'cos you're on duty.  I'm pretty sure this has caused some members to give up all together which is a shame - clubs need members whether they sail regularly or not.  But what to do?  Can't run races with OOD & rescue.

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Originally posted by MikeBz

At Brightlingsea SC it's 4 duties (rescue or OOD) a year.  If you sail every weekend then I don't think that's too much to ask.  But if you only don't sail that much due to time contraints then it all becomes a bit of a vicious circle - a significant proportion of the odd weekends you have free for sailing you don't get to sail 'cos you're on duty.  I'm pretty sure this has caused some members to give up all together which is a shame - clubs need members whether they sail regularly or not.  But what to do?  Can't run races with OOD & rescue.

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The trouble is as membership decreases the duties per head goes up and things get worse ...

At Whitstable we have offered people free membership if they commit to a certain number of duties per year.

We have a number of members who just do saftey boat and race recording and never sail. We advertised in the local paper and these people are now valued members who do duties for free membership and don't sail; they just enjoy being part of the club and they also spend money in the bar.

Seems to work very well.

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At Whitstable we have offered people free membership if they commit to a
certain number of duties per year.


We have a number of members who just do saftey boat and race recording
and never sail. We advertised in the local paper and these people are now
valued members who do duties for free membership and don't sail; they just
enjoy being part of the club and they also spend money in the bar.


Seems to work very well.


That's a good idea.
It must have been next to impossible to find anyone who could count or had
less than six fingers or could stay sober long enough, from within your
regular membership..

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Originally posted by oldbloke

 Seems to me you are looking at it from the wrong end.         &a mp;n bsp;         &a mp;n bsp;         &a mp;n bsp;   How many duty slots need filling. How many people available to do them and the rest is simple arithmatic.

Not necessarily - it is likely that the people who are down racing alot will be asked to put more into the duty slots than people who only come down 3 times a year. We have a system where all the members are put down for a duty (usually of their choice) and then the gaps are filled by regulars. Reading this thread, I'd say many clubs work a similar system.

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Originally posted by MikeBz

At Brightlingsea SC it's 4 duties (rescue or OOD) a year.  If you sail every weekend then I don't think that's too much to ask.  But if you only don't sail that much due to time contraints then it all becomes a bit of a vicious circle - a significant proportion of the odd weekends you have free for sailing you don't get to sail 'cos you're on duty. 

Couldn't agree more. It's all too easy for those who are able to attend regularly to pilliory those who are prevented from doing the same and who then take issue with providing services for regulars on a precious free day. Those clubs who operate a duty-waiver fee take advantage of these people's desire to limit the number of days they can't sail/race. Having been a long term shift worker, with mostly just one weekend off per month, I have added considerably to my club's coffers over the years, just to avoid missing yet another day's sailing/racing. It is galling to suffer criticism for doing it.



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Datchet is 2 duties per year.  Although like many clubs I notice that the same faces are seen in the safety boats.  I think clubs should invest in training a bit more to share the responsibility - i.e. run courses and get people qualified
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Captain Morgan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 09 at 9:46pm

Without letting this turn into a debate-cum-moan about how many duties are forced upon X of Y Sailing Club, I find it interesting to see just how many or few duties some of you are expected to do, which is the info that I am looking for.

Duty waiver fees. Now I know that they wouldn't work at our club. We are a volunteer-run club that gets an influx of members who should be encouraged to participate - One or two drop out every year because they just didn't get to know anyone in their first year through apprehension or whatever.   I know some would like to "pay" their way out to get the most out of their sailing time, and given the amount of duties that we do, it would be a nice idea but, it would lead to even more pressure on people to do the remaining duties. A nearby club allows this, and it works for them because they have so many sailing members.

ASok is correct in my opinion - we should be (and do) encourage new members to get trained in safety boat/RO duties, but they usually find it a bit daunting to do so in their first year. This would, eventually, lead to a membership base that could be relied upon to fill out the on-the-water duties.

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