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ColH ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 242 |
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The word "cobblers" (or something similar) springs to mind. I suspect there are relatively few people who can do that accurately - ones with experience in extremely large measures, and probably just as much talent. But anyway, I'm curious about what people mean when they talk about how easy the 800 (or any boat, for that matter) is to sail. Do they mean it to be complimentart or disparaging?? Is it only impressive to win in a "difficult" boat? I could say the Laser is easy to sail, but it doesn't seem to harm its popularity. [And don't assume I mean it is easy to sail well] Just been reading that 12ft's are unstable when moving slow, so surely a range of conditions need to be sampled before you can know a boat. Though Chris is right, a test sail is important and those are generally a one-shot affair in whatever the weather gods bring that day! Edited by ColH |
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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I've crewed an 800 for a couple of seasons, sailed a 49er a few times and a 29er twice. The 800 is a brilliant design in that its very fast and yet relatively manageable, and doesn't require huge strength. The yardstick is about right but its weakness is in very light winds. I found the 29er very tippy and relatively difficult for its performance but then I'm a bit heavy for it. The 49er too is an excellent design and considering its performance I was impressed at its ease but we are talking an extreme high performance boat with a great deal of sail. I'm not up to racing it in any sort of breeze but for the fittest and very experienced I'm sure its great and quite an improvement on things like the 5000 and the Boss (I've not sailed either of them). What about the I14 and the B14 for comparison. Having watched the B14 in light winds, it looks like it really parks up. My limited time in a I14 suggests it doesn't park up quite so readily but then is has huge sails. But I 'd like to reiterate what a fantastic design the 800 is - in that it makes high performance available without being a superstar. |
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Ross ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1163 |
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I'm going to throw the inevitable spanner in the works and
ask if anyone has sailed a Cherub and how you thought it compared to the above mentioned. Mind you, I think that most people that get a sail in a Cherub end up getting one
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ratface ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 686 |
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can i officially say "bugger" ![]() |
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olly_love ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1145 |
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here we go again
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Ross ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 02 May 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1163 |
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I think "YIPEE!" would be better suited. |
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Ross
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Bickering and Cherubs
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radixon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2407 |
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Ha Ha, I like this, its not about the RS800 anymore, more like, what do we recon to...... Chris B - Needs to did himself a hole and bury himself, we'll now refer to him as "THE EXPERT!!!" As for Ross, the C word is bad enough, you really have thrown the spanner, I'll chuck it back at you. As for Smight, why didn't you do your homework so we aren't in this mess of a subject!!!!! |
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Chris Bridges ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 14 Nov 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 699 |
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For me I like a hard boat to sail, I like the challenge but for others they like speed for little effort. If you can handle a boat in 18 knots, you can probably handle it in 8.. Light wind stuff is pretty hard on any boat but I can pretty much gurantee you it won't get much harder/uncomfortable than a 29er! The 800 has a much bigger area on the water and is no where near as tippy. But any skiff is hard to sail in light winds comparative to the average boat. You won't have a perfect idea from a test sail, but I don't think you can go far wrong with a test sail in an average wind speed of 15 - 18 knots. Not saying that it is perfect but I am pretty certain it owuldn't be harder than a 29er in the light! You will no what I mean if you have tried a 29er in the light. Its so tippy!! Not as bad as something like the 600 for tippiness though, but its easier to keep a flat boat in light conditions with one person (not countering each other out! Depends what 14, I have only sailed one of the older ones so I wouldn't know what the fast boats are like. (not sure what it was that I sailed, oldish, maybe 1996ish. B14 i expect would be a different ball game as it is a hiking boat. And yes, once oyur on the heavier side of the 29er it actually gets harder to sail.. |
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