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    Posted: 06 May 23 at 11:01am
Originally posted by turnturtle

Good points well made Eric - although I’d suggest there’s generational differences in play - ‘duties’ may seem like a far more onerous term to a newbie than a ‘volunteer rota’ …


I’m also not sure if there’s actually a better/more appropriate wording from other organised / semi-organised sports? Certainly from fired s who play football and padel, it seems the ‘duties’ fall on whoever are the admin on the associated WhatsApp group!


The word 'rota' is probably sufficient, it generally implies being on a list of people who have to do something, i.e. it's implicitly a 'duty', an obligation. Collins' Dictionary:
A rota is a list which gives details of the order in which different people have to do a particular job.

Probably best to make plain to 'newbies' that there is a commitment to a rota. 'Duties' in my clubs are pleasant, sociable half days at the club. Some members who are not obliged to do them, because they are only associates who don't have a boat at the club, volunteer for them. The members appreciate that.
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Both my summer and winter clubs are entirely volunteer run and that includes the officers of the club, and instructors in our sailing school with up to 80 children and the odd adult learning . The only paid person is the cleaner who comes in the morning after sailing.
https://www.horning-sailing.club/
https://www.sfsc.co.uk/
It is expected of both club each member does a duty, T bar, rescue boat, running the line, many others do club committee, club maintenance and assist in other ways.

I do rescue boat ( May 14th this year) and this year I'll do rescue boat for five mornings of the seven days of this years regatta week.

Then there is the 3 Rivers Race https://www.3rr.uk/, there are around 100+ boats entering each year, so nearly 300 competitors.
That requires,
A dozen guardships with rescue boat each with at least 4 persons on board.
There are about a dozen line crew, race officers, time keepers, radio operators, computer operators.
Then the galley staff minimum of two staff on at any time for 36 hours with more at peak times.
In all there are about 100 volunteers. Giving up 36 hours of their time.

Also I volunteer here., https://www.radarmuseum.co.uk/ for one day a week only the manager is paid, everyone else is a volunteer.

Come to that I'm a member of http://broadlandmodelrailwayclub.co.uk/ which if you've looked at it, has a show in 4 weeks time, the entire club volunteers to run that. Plus the obvious duties of chairman, secretary treasurer , show manager, etc.

Whilst all could do with more volunteers, so far all these groups have still got enough volunteers to run their events.
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I don't think a club can ever have enough volunteers.

The ongoing problems at most of the clubs I visit is that the volunteers are largely the same people who were volunteering 10, 15 even 20 years ago. The roles change hands, but the faces are largely the same even to the point that people move clubs - for whatever reason - and get roped in at the new place very quickly.

Culture has changed but the 90's early retirees can't do it any more. They've done clubs all over the country in a variety of sports and pastimes proud, but in the long term have they really done us a favour?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 23 at 9:34am
Long term volunteers have done is a huge favour and hopefully people will follow in their footsteps. Half the sailing clubs in the UK would be gone without them.
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In my club, and hopefully elsewhere, it's the next couple of generations of retirees that have taken over. The only problem I see is that there is a short spell between no longer fit to sail and dead .Actually I am not sure it is a problem as such but you don't have that group of old boys bumbling around just happy to be involved.
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Originally posted by Old bloke

In my club, and hopefully elsewhere, it's the next couple of generations of retirees that have taken over. The only problem I see is that there is a short spell between no longer fit to sail and dead .

My folks are of a generation that are still enjoying, albeit very elderly, a very long retirement of 25 to 30+ years.  Which, I will add,  requires a lot of input from their ageing children. They had/have loads of 'retired' time to devote to hobbies, sports, clubs etc.  Their children won't have this time. Moving forward, clubs depending on volunteers will suffer.
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Are there any clubs that don’t depend on volunteers?

Whilst some clubs may pay cleaners, secretaries and someone to staff the galley the running of every club I’ve been to is by volunteers. 


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As Eric said, duties are part of the "contract" when you join a club and as far as volunteering goes to my mind that is also part of an implied contract.

Club: my definition . A group of like minded people joining together for mutual benefit.

Simple as that. You can chew on all you like but if you don't want to join in, pay for a fully staffed commercial organisation and see how the numbers add up for that.

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It all depends on how long it takes people to go from fit to dead. Until recently UK health statistics were showing that people were staying fitter for longer and taking the same amount of time to fade away and die. Of recent years the length of infirmity has been increasing again. Probably mostly due to obesity and diabetes. Whether this is going to be significantly true for us healthy sporty types time will tell.
Obviously there is a big difference between statistics and the individual's experience
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Originally posted by Old bloke

It all depends on how long it takes people to go from fit to dead. Until recently UK health statistics were showing that people were staying fitter for longer and taking the same amount of time to fade away and die. Of recent years the length of infirmity has been increasing again. Probably mostly due to obesity and diabetes. Whether this is going to be significantly true for us healthy sporty types time will tell.
Obviously there is a big difference between statistics and the individual's experience

I don't see how that's relevant.    
Most of the people doing more than their 'rota duty' towards my clubs are no less fit than some people sailing Lasers.
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