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    Posted: 28 Oct 21 at 7:20am
I'm going to go for glued construction.

It has given rise - directly or otherwise - to pretty much every racing class we have today except approximately 10, one or two of which pioneered the technique, later refined on all the others. I suppose we have WWII to thank for it because without that we'd probably never have developed the chemistry, at least not as quickly.
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Originally posted by iGRF

Nope, the only serious performance step change was the articulated mast foot joint that gave rise to the biggest increase in independant performance sailing.

Which in turn was enabled by the wet suit. Board sailing in 1930s dinghy sailing clothing would leave a lot to be desired!
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Originally posted by iGRF

Nope, the only serious performance step change was the articulated mast foot joint that gave rise to the biggest increase in independant performance sailing.

Which in turn was enabled by the wet suit. Board sailing in 1930s dinghy sailing clothing would leave a lot to be desired!


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Those bits the Moth class stuck on the bottom of there foils seam to have been a bit of a step change that has been brilliant to watch. So there is at least one good development since the 70s I think.  Wink
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Originally posted by Sailerf

Those bits the Moth class stuck on the bottom of there foils seam to have been a bit of a step change that has been brilliant to watch. So there is at least one good development since the 70s I think.  Wink

Not sure that £26k second hand for an 11ft boat is going to take dinghy sailing to the masses 
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Rumour has it the Worlds winning moth sold for 48,000 euro after the regatta in Garda. 
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And I thought sailing for the masses ended with the package holiday. 26k compared to motor sport looks like a drop in the ocean but you can have a lot of fun for nearly 20k less than quoted. and 120 boats at the world was not to bad.
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Originally posted by Sailerf

And I thought sailing for the masses ended with the package holiday. 26k compared to motor sport looks like a drop in the ocean but you can have a lot of fun for nearly 20k less than quoted. and 120 boats at the world was not to bad.
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I would not find it fun to be 5-10% of the pace of the winner. If it is just to blast about there are many foiling options from windsurfing to kiting to go at substantially cheaper.
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Firstly I thought this topic was about Performance step changes not cost or ability's . But if john80 can race Slingsby at only 5-10 percent performance deficit in an older foiling Moth you must be some sailor. Wink 
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"I would not find it fun to be 5-10% off the pace of the winner."
I don't agree with that. No matter what your relative standard is in a fleet, if you are having close competition with other boats, that is fun. Maybe 90% of a fleet have no realistic chance of winning, but still take part, week in, week out. Why? Because they have fun doing their thing.
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