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    Posted: 29 Mar 06 at 9:22am

Cedric, visit your local clubs and join one where you like the people, then sail/buy a dinghy which fits in with what they are doing.  If the dinghy is not optimum for your weight - what the hell, you're with good people and every now and then there'll be conditions which suit you and not the others.

Dinghies are not running shoes they don't have to fit perfectly, and don't buy a high tech, boat speed, type of boat - there's a hell of a lot to learn about the basics, weather, tactics and rules before you also have to wrestle with fancy hardware.  Let's face it all the boats mentioned are going to seem quite lively after years of absence and memories of a GP14.
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Originally posted by andy_cherub

Cedric - if your light and nimble, try out a cherub! Its a two man boat, development class so you can do what ever you like to it. The latest ones are full on carbon twin wire big rigged asmy boats weighing in at 50kg!!!

Or if you really do wana stay solo - try an A class catamaran (none of this pansying about with a dart 15), the A class is a 70kg single handed trapeze cat with a big carbon wing mast. Or a more 'older' version (one design) is that of the Unicorn which I also once sailed. Both utterly fantastic - but as im slightly mad im very much into cherubing and never looked back!

Oh come on!

Are you honestly trying to persuade this guy - who crewed a GP14 years ago and is 'doing a couple of RYA courses' that a Cherub is the right choice for him? Are you sure you're just slightly mad?

Recommending the Cherub for everyone and anything does nothing for the credibility of your class.
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I wish I could recomend a Lightning but even though they are super little boats and can thrash lasers in light winds they have the same canvas as a full rig. Why not a Splash? Incidentaly, do I detect a little ageisim creeping in here. As a 10 1/2 stone 60 year old I'm up for almost anything.
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Yes well said Hector.  I was kind of saying the same sort of thing but diplomatically.  Let's face it a Laser seems an awfully tippy and powerful thing compared with the memory of a GP14.  I've seen people get into a hell of a mess in a Laser2000.  I've seen people put off sailing by being put into the wrong boat.
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Bytes would be a good idea

They have a traveller which maybe makes them easier to depower.

Other wise if you are taking the wife or , er, niece out reverend, why not a laser2000?
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at my club we have a nice fleet of comets (the single handed variety) with older helms they seem to do pretty well, perhaps you should consider a comet
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Originally posted by redback

  Let's face it a Laser seems an awfully tippy and powerful thing compared with the memory of a GP14.


  I've seen people get into a hell of a mess in a Laser2000

  I've seen people put off sailing by being put into the wrong boat.


laser tippy? short of goign full gung ho with big roll manoerves I think they are quite submissive!

How does one get a laser 2000 into such a compromising position?
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Solo with a wavelength rig might be a good idea - they have an official B plan rig too so you can de-canvas in a blow

Streaker - good Jack Holt stuff, Rooster variant seems good value

Europe - good deal if you get one that some Olympic aspriant spend £xxxx's of sponsors money on so you get loads of kit for small £xxx
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Originally posted by damp_freddie

Originally posted by redback

  Let's face it a Laser seems an awfully tippy and powerful thing compared with the memory of a GP14.


  I've seen people get into a hell of a mess in a Laser2000

  I've seen people put off sailing by being put into the wrong boat.


laser tippy? short of goign full gung ho with big roll manoerves I think they are quite submissive!

How does one get a laser 2000 into such a compromising position?

Lasers do the death roll...and with the old controls are difficult to depower if the wind picks up.

A 2000 when a gust hits and you are too near the shore to bear away...admittedly it has to be windier than it would be to get into the same trouble with racier asymmetrics.
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What about a Supanova?

Very kind to sail, more room than a Laser, bigger and more power than a Comet, worth a look!
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