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rich96 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 20 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 596 |
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The OK is not well handicapped
Upwind a recent OK would normally be at least as quick as a Laser and probably quicker in waves. Running - similar Reaching they are dog slow compared to a Laser But - massive sailing range (80 - 110 kg ?) and lovely to sail Expensive initially but the hulls and rigs last Not uncomfortable and the boom pops us when you tack Much nicer boats really |
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sawman ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 04 May 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 205 |
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The OK is a lovely boat to sail, I picked up an old one with a tin rig and quite a nice sail, which I have been sailing in a handicap fleet. Its quicker upwind than a laser in the sub 10knt breeze that I have experienced to date, but its quite tweaky and sensitive to sail controls (I am still experimenting) dead down wind is on a par with laser and reaching its a bit slower, but responds very well to a bit of kinetics!! I get the feeling that it roll tacks better than a laser - i am still working on my timing) overall its a great boat. I would highly recommend
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Phantom or Finn - at 95kg inland in dying breeze, you’ll find a laser a very disappointing experience
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wolfram ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 30 Jul 21 Online Status: Offline Posts: 23 |
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I've bought a Phantom. Just fettling the rigging and repairing gel coat etc. Hoping to get on the lake in a few weeks! Thanks for the advice.
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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I was in a similar position a few years back: a similar weight, height and situation of returning to sailing after 15 years. What I worked out was that there are a bunch of boats that are similar to the Laser (d zero, aero, solution, solo) and you could sail these but our weight is a disadvantage whatever people will tell you. I worked out that my list of options was Finn, Phantom, Blaze and Hadron H2. I discounted the Blaze as the wings on a small pond was not ideal - can be done and people do but for me its a much better boat for bigger bits of water. I tried the Finn, Phantom and H2 - they are all nice boats with pros and cons. I liked that you tend to sit in a Finn and H2 rather than be on your knees like you are in a Phantom (they do have a deep cockpit version too). I went for the H2 in the end and am now on my second boat and love it; might also get a Finn one day to do the master circuit.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Blah blah blah..wish my H2 had a decent sail...
![]() Wolfram. good decision, enjoy. Edited by iGRF - 27 Aug 21 at 6:21pm |
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Has a great rig Graeme - you just need to be skilled enough to set it up. Probably best to stick to your more basic rigs
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Funny, just last tuesday we had a well travelled visitor of my acquaintance from dinghy world down at our club, Just bought a Solo coffin, so I immediately set about him with the age jokes given his last ride was a foiling moth and an MPS prior to that and the subject of the H2 came up funnily enough on my suggestion. 'Great boat spolied by a crap sail' was his exclamation, having actually sailed one, so, my 'joke assessment' appears to have some validity, one day I'll get a go in one and find out for certain.
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Grumpycat ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 29 Sep 20 Online Status: Offline Posts: 497 |
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It would be great to get grf boat test of a Hadron . Because he has a unrivalled ability… to pick the wrong horse.
If grf likes a class , it’s doomed . At least if he dislikes it you know the class has a future in the medium term and is a good boat too. I have based all my boat buying decisions on this for the last 8 years and it’s worked every time
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H2 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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The H2 rig requires some real time and effort to understand. If you get in the boat for a demo I very much doubt you would even get it in the ball park. To me that was part of the attraction of the class as I like understanding how things work. For example - it is very sensitive to spreader length - adding 5cm to each side results in heavy helms having to hike fully in 10 knots rather than being underpowered in 20 knots!
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H2 #115 (sold)
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