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    Posted: 27 Jun 17 at 12:49pm
we have had similar problems at my old club for years with people not turning up for duties, so i proposed either a buy out fee or a "fine" as an incentive (fine could be monetary or warning against your membership) and was told that they didn't want to rock the apple cart and upset people, what about upsetting the people who do volunteer?  My solution was to move to a club that i haven't seen a single person drop out without notice!
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Exactly the same as Oli's old place and committee saying same apple cart nonsense.
TT, most don't even try to justify why they haven't turned up, most common is I forgot.
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Originally posted by 423zero

TT, most don't even try to justify why they haven't turned up, most common is I forgot.

sounds like your sailing sec needs a protocol to begin to communicate to individuals maybe a month and two weeks before their designated duty.

It's a bit difficult to 'forget' if you've been reminded.  It at least puts the onus on the member to arrange a last minute swap.  
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Could it go back to the centre/squad culture where sailors are used to having everything laid on by somebody else? Back in the day I was aware of the obligation to do duties a couple of times a year because, rather than me sailing and having dad look after everything else, he was also sailing (and doing duties) so rigging my own boat was normal as was the 'duty' culture prevalent in sailing clubs.
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Originally posted by turnturtle


Originally posted by 423zero

TT, most don't even try to justify why they haven't turned up, most common is I forgot.

sounds like your sailing sec needs a protocol to begin to communicate to individuals maybe a month and two weeks before their designated duty.
It's a bit difficult to 'forget' if you've been reminded.  It at least puts the onus on the member to arrange a last minute swap.  

This. We use dutyman which sends auto reminders, but the designated OOD also calls round to "remind" a week or two before. At this time of year there can be difficulties with non renewal of membership, so those down for a duty aren't members anymore.
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We also use dutyman. Seems to work most of the time but people still miss occasionally, which I guess is to be expected.

Everyone over 16 has at least one duty, and a Wednesday night sailor one or 2 for that as well. Rupertson was surprised to find himself with a duty 7 years ago, age 10, possibly due to clerical error, but has been doing them regularly ever since. They are a nice, social thing to do, really.
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Everybody is entitled to one 'cock up' we are human after all and do forget things. If people miss occasionally that's acceptable (as long as they are suitably contrite and it's not always the same people). Not being willing to give 5 minutes to help put the safety boat to bed is ridiculous. 
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As for the motto:

"We are grumpy old men. Come and join us."
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