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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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How much have you sailed the latest frp boats?
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ChrisB14 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 13 Location: London Online Status: Offline Posts: 101 |
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Other than "hiking" ;-)
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B14 GBR 748 Bullet B
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Enough to know there are lots of easier boats in the world, but, if you've dedicated the time, then it's really rewarding when you get it right and there is never a dull moment. However the emphasis is on that word... time. |
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Most of the best things in life require an investment of time
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Happily living in the past
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JohnJack ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 246 |
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I am an Electronics Engineer, I am sure I could design and build some sort of auto pilot for a dinghy so iGRF could just input the course before the race to make it 'easier' to sail. I could also program it to tack on headers look for shifts, automatically set trim and sail shape etc etc and do all the other race management. In fact get a fleet of these and you wouldn't even have to go out into the cold, you could just send them out and watch while sipping earl grey in the refines of the clubs viewing gallery. Modern enough??
Personally I find if something requires a bit of effort, time, skill to achieve the reward is far greater. Hence why I sail a boat that rewards that. (there is a slight irony to saying 'modern' boats, it doesn't do that much differently to what 'boats' have been doing for a thousand years or two)
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Well I subscribe to the view that the joy is in the race, dealing with the shifts, the tactics, the opponents and their decisions, all the 'out of the boat' stuff, and to further back that opinion one only has to point to dear old Eric Twiname who points out the two essential skills, the first being the ability to bring the boat to maximum speed but the second being to send it in the right direction.
Now, I've been as kind as I'm going to, to you alcohol addled coffin dodgers in your merlins, but since I do not wish to spend the rest of my life working out which bit of knitting to unravel nor which window sash to pull, nor self baler to switch on and/or off, or nodger to duck and prefer to spend the few remaining conscious hours working out how, when and where to go, rather than how, whether or why the ancient crate won't do what it is supposed to. My opinion that's all, I do tip my hat to your accomplishments however, much in the same way I admire the Wright Brothers, but hey it's twenty fifteen, with twenty sixteen just around the corner and by now there should be something better. Light, fast, modern and quicker to bring to speed so the dodgy old cretins don't keep new blood out of the trophy room, and can spend more of their time at the bottom of that bottle looking for the perfect raking angle. Edited by iGRF - 26 Oct 15 at 5:43pm |
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iiiiitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 May 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
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.....well... I have had time to look at these Aero things now. Do they not meet your criteria?
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Not double handers tick, if they made a twin it would I'm sure.
But would I buy one? No, the reason? Crew difficulties. If I were RS would I invest in tooling? Nope, not a chance. If I were them, I'd make the RS400 super light, piss off all the owners and make them buy a new one. Edited by iGRF - 26 Oct 15 at 9:36pm |
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iiiiitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 May 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
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Given that boats will always be boats....gradual improvements on the original idea.....and that outlandish ground breaking ideas seldom break ground (you have experience of that) why not the Icon? It looks sexy, goes quite fast, light and simple.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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By grf's criteria, an old design is just as good as a new design, possibly better, as faster can only be achieved by making a dinghy trickier to sail in some other way. This is probably why there are no new symmetric designs.
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