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    Posted: 01 Jan 13 at 11:55pm
Can I firstly thank all for your replies - there's been some excellent points made, but to find the answer regarding my original question, I think I'm going to have to give you more information....
 
My son turned 14 last week, but despite his young age he stands at 6'1" and weighs in at 78Kg (and rising!).  He's always been big for his age and consequently his sailing peers have always been at least 2 years older than him.  His stated ambition is to represent GBR at the Olympics, probably in a Finn.
Since entering competitive sailing about 5 years ago he has done the Squad "thing", with Topper Zone Squad then on to 4.7 Nat Squad.  Last summer he moved into the Radial and did superbly, getting in to the Gold Fleet at the Nationals (he's still only 13 at this point remember!).  He also this year had the opportunity to sail a Spitfire a couple of times and did suprisingly well at the Nats, a result that ended up with him being offered at Youth Squad place in that class.  He turned this down in order to try and gain a place in the Radial Transition Squad, but was unfortunately unsuccessful in this.
 
One thing I have noticed with his sailing is that despite his excellent sailing skills and physical prowess, as a genuine youngster, he isn't yet equiped with the emotional maturity to deal with the pressure (when he feels he  has something to lose, like the Squad selectors, as opposed to the Nationals when he could just go for it) and the enevitable mind-games in the Youth Sailing enviroment.
 
As an upshot of this, we've decided that his best way forward is to "escape" from Squad chasing and to get away from the Laser youth circuit in order to do something completely different on order to just have fun enjoying sailing for a year, before going back in renewed and refreshed to have a crack at it again (subject to his size still being appropriate for a Radial).
 
So.... back to the original question...
 
I've got a budget (ish!) to buy a boat each for the 2 of us, of £1K each.  We're looking to club race at Farmoor, do the Open Circuit/Nationals, and some Open Handicap events, like the Weymouth do in the summer.  I've got a bit of a short-list of classes, which all have their pro's and con's, so I'd like the esteemed panel's thoughts...
 
1. OK - I love them, good boat for budget but too similar to the Laser...
2. RS600 - Budget?  Poor turnouts at Opens. Very physical for this old git.
3. Contender - Budget (for a half-decent one)?
4. Dart 15 - Great Class setup, competitive at this price?
5. Dart 18 - Sailed unarig, much class racing?
6. Unicorn - very fast and fun but class racing? Fragile?
 
Any comments on the above, or other ideas?
 
The original question was asked regarding the kind of boat I could get within budget, specifically with the OK, but is just as applicable to the contender and Unicorn.
 
 


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Just thought.... what about the Vortex?
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Have you thought about the Finn there is a growing fleet of classic Finns out there and some very good sailors in them . Pete Vinton(not to be confused with Pete Vincent) sometimes posts on here and could point you in the right direction to some good quality Finns. I think he uses the name PeterV

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The best singehander for fleet racing is the Solo. I don't think the others really tick that box and its really the most important. What boats are sailed at your club?
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or pool your resources and buy a better double hander for £2k and sail it together?
the same, but different...

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I would say Solo too just look at the numbers at opens and the nationals are at hayling this year .Its looks so good that even i am thinking about getting one as a back up to the two man boat
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jan 13 at 8:41am
or get your son a decent young helm and take up this offer from the fireball class:

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/167320/Want-to-sail-a-championship-winning-Fireball?

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Pooling recources, £2k will get you a good wooden GP14, wooden Merlin to the Canterbury Tales design, reasonable RS200 or 400 (I think), a good older Scorpion or good composite narrow bow Fireball.
There will be others, but these offer good fleet racing all over the country
 
Its a better budget that 2x £1k thats for sure!
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Agreed. A double-hander makes far more sense. It then comes down to what fleets are raced at your home club and have a decent open circuit within striking distance.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote tick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jan 13 at 9:30am
I would have said buy a Lightning (if you could find one) but in view of his size a Supernova would be a good idea. They are sexier than a Solo take size and weight well and old ones can be had for close to £1000. They also have a good circuit and go well in most conditions.
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