Ovington thingy.....

   That rig must be ten times more adjustable than a frigging radial, had the EPS not come along, it was my first choice as a lake boat, with a rig I actually understood.

So is the boat unmanageable because it's too short? (That was my issue with it, but have since changed my mind)

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iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Ovington thingy..... Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 4:59pm
	That rig must be ten times more adjustable than a frigging radial, had the EPS not come along, it was my first choice as a lake boat, with a rig I actually understood. So is the boat unmanageable because it's too short? (That was my issue with it, but have since changed my mind)

pondmonkey Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202	Post Options Post Reply Quote pondmonkey Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 4:38pm
	I think the fundamental problem is the boat just ain't 'that different' from a radial, in fact it's arguably harder sail on the sea in normal regatta conditions. (my sister had one when we were kids, they got blown to sh*t long before the radials and full rig lasers came in)

iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 4:20pm
	So am I reading this right, there is an Olympics for youth, that we don't send a team to because the RYA favour that knee busting beach toy with a radial sail instead? Sounds like a good sponsorship opportunity to me.

Jon Emmett Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jon Emmett Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 4:09pm
	I have always found people are willing to pay for the quality that they are getting... Without starting an argument but plenty of people buy apple products! The coaching costs, compared to the cost of getting to and racing in the YOGs would be relatively small IMVHO.
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Jon Emmett Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jon Emmett Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 4:02pm
	I do not believe that there is anything stopping British youngers entering the Youth Olympics if the class could provide the quality of training which would make it worth them going...
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pondmonkey Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202	Post Options Post Reply Quote pondmonkey Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 4:01pm
	Maybe if the class invested its resources in marketing, rather than funding training for those already converted, then it would become more popular and more attractive to a builder? Thus making this page more relevant... http://www.ovingtonboats.com/page.byte

Lion Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 Nov 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lion Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 3:55pm
	Ah! Now we hit the crunch and why I am feeling so frustrated! We don't currently have a UK Boat Builder! Please see the link I referred to which gives some idea about the International scene. It just feels sad that the UK does not want to give their youngsters a chance to sail a dinghy in the Youth Olympic Games in 2014. Thank you for putting up with my rant!
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2547 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151	Post Options Post Reply Quote 2547 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 3:51pm
	Not at the dinghy show = dead class IMHO.

pondmonkey Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202	Post Options Post Reply Quote pondmonkey Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 3:38pm
	But £500 is nothing - can't you ask your builder for stand space, or partial assistance towards one of your own? Regardless, if there's 50 CA members, it's a tenner each to help ensure their boats aren't worthless in a few years. Surely they'd make that back on sales of spares at the event anyway- especially if your membership base puts a value on newer equipment to remain competitive? Edited by pondmonkey - 22 Nov 12 at 3:41pm

Lion Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 Nov 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lion Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Nov 12 at 3:02pm
	Having a stand at the Dinghy Boat Show costs nearly 500 quid. Mostly its members who come to the stand and want to talk about new ideas such as the Bridle etc. Or its people who have already made up their minds that they want one and make inquiries about the 2nd hand market, or CII versus Classic or Standard rig. It appears that our Web Site, which is now fixed thanks to Olwen, is our main advertising vehicle. The people who email or ring with inquiries about the Byte find contact details here. So the Byte Class in the UK is far from defunct and made a respectable appearance at the Ovi-Inlands last weekend. Anyone interested in the International Byte picture could follow the link on the UK Byte Association Web site. Finally, no we don't pass on all the costs of training to the participants. The Class subsidises the training to ensure that all who wish to take part can do so. Training is currently provided by Kev who is just brilliant at meeting the needs of all, from total beginners in the Byte, to those who have been through the RYA squad and want to learn how to get the best out of the Byte. He is ably assisted by Gordon. OK so I'm being really boring, so I will shut up now! Thanks for listening!
	Lion