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    Posted: 18 Jul 11 at 8:26pm
Looks heavy ? Isn't the idea of a single hander is to be able to launch and recover single handed...and drag it up a slipway or across a beach. !
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I saw the beast in the flesh today at Jamie's. The photos don't really show the scale and size of the thing...quite enormous!!
I'm sure some little titanium guard rails, and an optional lifting keel of a spent Uranium bulb on a strut, you could enter the boat in a Sportsboat fleet if things don't work out in the dinghy fleet.   
Jamie had plans to bog all the hull stringers in today, so it's getting there.  

My 2 pence is though the rig's too small...12.5m2 sail area's a little on the Thai lady boy size, to get it really powered up.  Don't dick about, go straight for the square top 49er rig.  It'll blow ping pong balls..
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

if you want things to be fast and easy then they need to be wide, that's what happened in windsurfing and the whole widestyle revolution, and now I'm bringing it to dinghies.

Wide = Fast Acelleration and stability.
Even Wider = Light Guys can make em go.


Wide scow shapes and wide boats are very far from being new to dinghy sailing.  The 1800s Sandbaggers and skiff types had beams approaching half their length. The old Kiwi Idle Along had 6' beam on less than 13' overall length.  Elvstrom did an 8'6" wide singlehander many decades ago that he sailed once before burning.  Scow Moths were grest performers in a breeze, largely because they were light, but certainly not so good in lighter breezes.

As you'd know, Formula boards aren't exactly quick in sub-planing conditions, when form drag rises approximately with the square of the beam.  So it's an interesting idea (I reckon scows are a great type of boat) but it's far from unknojn in dinghies.

There's been some small cats with single surface-piercing centreboards that drop down from the tramp's centreline.  The surviving classes down here are quite good performers, able to mix it with anything of their type despite having box-shaped hulls.  So the surface piercing effect may not be a big issue.


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It looks like a large donna kebab without the filling, can't see it being first to the windward mark too often. It had better be quick off-wind to have any chance of beating something like a Contender around the cans.

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You're the fine Cove who offered his rescue boat services as I recall..

Well its getting nearer that point by the day, the bits are together and it could be on the water later this week..

Bet you're getting really excited..
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Well! I am excited for one. Good or bad it is an exciting thing to do and in the public eye as well. Looking at it in the "flesh" so to speak, might it not need sort of rubbing strakes down the hulls to keep such a wide shallow hull going strait without too much helm input?
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I'm genuinely excited to see and hear about this thing on the water.  It's going to spectacular, one way or the other.
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I'm also excited. This thing is bloody massive. You may require a beach team to launch that thing!
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Hmm yes I have a feeling this thing might turn into a latter day B14 substitute...

We shall see, maybe I'll call her Topsy..
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I think I have said on here before
 
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A few get as far a designing something and getting a quote
Very rarely do pipe dreams see the light of day
 
Success or failure I applaud the effort, determination and the willingness to open your wallet in pursuit of your convictions
 
Now get it in the water and post the video of it sinking - having a sh1t day at work and need a good laugh Wink
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