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    Posted: 03 Dec 14 at 1:04pm
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Originally posted by ds2

And the comments about the fact its so so easy to get into that in the end a sailor had to get in over the transom?

I see we have a new troll to deal with. After this post nothing shall pass my keyboard.
That was his decision but I can attest, from personal experience, that you can get in over the side of a D-Zero very easily when in the water after the boat has righted.

So it's a legitimate question to ask about the aero, but not the zero?
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Originally posted by kneewrecker

I will test capsize saturday and see if I can climb in over the side.... you'll have to take my word for (whether I can or not), as my GoPro bit the dust and I sold the replacement.
I shall be disappointed if I have to haul my ass over the back on every capsize, but hey, these are the prices you pay when you buy a re-written playbook.

Nice balanced answer

Looking forward to your views.
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To be fair, DS2 did post with the intention to bring balance to alleged nit-picking on the Aero thread.  They are valid questions, not all of us have such recent Laser experience to recognise this is as a run of the mill 'user error' for unstayed unarigs.

Anyway, on the other issue about 'getting back in', I will test capsize saturday and see if I can climb in over the side of the Zero.... you'll have to take my word for whether I can or not, as my GoPro bit the dust and I sold the replacement.  

I shall be disappointed if I have to haul my ass over the back on every capsize whatever the wind strength, but hey, these are the prices you pay when you buy a re-written playbook.


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Originally posted by ds2

And the comments about the fact its so so easy to get into that in the end a sailor had to get in over the transom?

I see we have a new troll to deal with. After this post nothing shall pass my keyboard.

That was his decision but I can attest, from personal experience, that you can get in over the side of a D-Zero very easily when in the water after the boat has righted.
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And the comments about the fact its so so easy to get into that in the end a sailor had to get in over the transom?
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Originally posted by Null

They always seem uncontrolled when racing to me

Correct
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It’s all been said on Facebook really. But happy to go over it again. It’s a mixture of the transition between running and running by the lee, a nasty gust and being in a the wrong position in the boat in my opinion. Quite funny actually. But it went over with a bit of a slap! I have always found the Zero really stable Downwind, thanks to the chine really it saves you a little bit of time with the over exuberant rolls.

BTW is any capsized controlled? They always seem uncontrolled when racing to me
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Originally posted by ds2

With the end of balancing the d-0 v aero nit picking. Would anyone liked comment on the videos winging its better half posted on Facebook of d-0s at grafham.
In particular the one of the uncontrolled capsize to windward going down wind.



Yeah it was a lot windier than it looked and he had too much sail out and too much twist (and not enough board down). Any SH will capsize like that in those conditions.
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yep sure, guy fell over with too much pie on the rail.  

 Been there, done that... expect to do it again imminently.
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With the end of balancing the d-0 v aero nit picking. Would anyone liked comment on the videos winging its better half posted on Facebook of d-0s at grafham.
In particular the one of the uncontrolled capsize to windward going down wind.


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