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Daniel Holman ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 17 Nov 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 997 |
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Hi Jim, I think you will hit nerves if people feel that they are being misrepresented. I don't think I have originated any hype - the zero is about fourteen feet of boat, it will not, to paraphrase Boris Johnson, make your wife have bigger breasts and increase your chances of driving a BMW M3 (more is the pity). It's not a bethwaite/Farr/Morrison/bieker/Richards, and I haven't designed or built a cherub (yet), but the boat reflects a large body of effort, intellectual and otherwise, and leverages a lot of experience from the coal face of a decade of una rig hiking boat sailing. I haven't seen anything come from Rodney or Devoti themselves that I am uncomfortable with, and I get uneasy at the merest whiff of bullsh*t around anything with which I am associated. All I have seen regarding the zero is enthusiastic owners discussing their experiences, which is personally satisfying and validates those efforts. Dan |
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Blue One ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317 |
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Jeffers apart, most of the d- 0 fan boys are a little sensitive to any criticism and if poked, attack the poker or another class/manufacturer. But then again given their track record on the forum it's not a surprise. :) And for the record, have sailed the d-0, it's a great boat and will be a great success. After a lot of thought, would I buy one? No, would rather go back to supernova sailing. |
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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I think you'll find most of the D-Zero customers aren't even registered on this forum. Please don't draw association between the fledgling class, its wider customer base with a couple vocalt**ts on a forum. (after all, you're only really referencing Russ and I; and I don't even own one (yet), nor do we represent anything like the typical owner... although we probably once did, I joined this forum what, 10 years ago, as a frustrated Laser sailor looking for the next challenge. As for sensitive, au contraire, you couldn't be further from the truth. Well versed in a bit of handbagging sure... overly passionate and sensitive about one particular class, builder or designer... n'ah, our records speak volume. We buy what we want, when
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Blue One ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317 |
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Point proved. |
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Null ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745 |
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not really
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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No point disproved. I have neither attacked you, nor criticised anyone, any group or any one specific brand.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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There is certainly a difference between being a customer and a fan boy (if we are using that expression to mean someone who defends a product, sometimes at the expense of another brand in the same market place).
As an owner of neither, and a fan of both (yes, that is possible, they both look like good boats, and I haven't had a problem with the marketing of either) I have found that many of the comments on here, while stating neutrality, have been upping one boat and dissing everything that surrounds the other. Its a forum, so fair enough, but also expect to be called on it. And I quite agree that designer, builder and seller have all been the height of integrity when it comes to marketing. |
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mongrel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 304 |
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Bet it has for you though!
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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that's a fair post Rupert- thank you. FWIW - I certainly haven't stated neutrality, but I have tried to remain as open as possible to the positives of both. If I sailed at Lymington, I would have an Aero on order, despite having a personal preference for a D-Zero.
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Blue One ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 09 Nov 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 317 |
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But as always you have to have the last word. Looking forward to your response, as always. ![]() Edited by Blue One - 22 Oct 14 at 1:41pm |
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