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    Posted: 05 Feb 15 at 3:59pm
I never said that our little club would not survive. It will survive but without 'youth'. The range of participation will go from forty to infinity the same as now. We are lucky in that this year we will have four competitive Byte sailors ranging from 26 to 37.....and two of them are girls! The problem is that we have no regular juniors to fill in at the bottom while the older members fly off to heaven at the top! Perhaps we should change our name to Combs Water Punks or Combs Where Water rocks but when those hip new members turn up and see Norman in his WW2 shorts we may be prosecuted under the Trade Description Act. As it stands we are a sport, at least at small club level, for middle age men onward. No bad thing, look how stupidly young the Rolling Stoned looked in the 1960's compared with now, they have grown into the image they projected all those years ago. As has Norman and his shorts.
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do you want to have a forum whip-round and get him some Zhik deckbeaters?  (Or would he pocket the money and buy warm beer and cake with it?)
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Saving sailing perhaps not the right theme,  open to suggestions etc

Saw that about IRL
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renewing... improving... rejuvenating... just ideas, but 'saving', no rather dramatic for a relatively healthy sport with plenty of diversity and options for all ages and budgets.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

do you want to have a forum whip-round and get him some Zhik deckbeaters?  (Or would he pocket the money and buy warm beer and cake with it?)


Actually he has plenty of encouragement to veer towards watersport fashion....his granddaughter is Hanna Whitley....look her up!
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The US even have a site
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Originally posted by Simon Lovesey


The US even have a site

The US needs more than a website.....  
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Originally posted by iiitick

Originally posted by turnturtle

do you want to have a forum whip-round and get him some Zhik deckbeaters?  (Or would he pocket the money and buy warm beer and cake with it?)


Actually he has plenty of encouragement to veer towards watersport fashion....his granddaughter is Hanna Whitley....look her up!

hmm, NSFW filter kicked in.  It must be the kiteboarding.
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Alliteration is a wonderful thing, but if it gives a false impression then maybe less than helpful.

There will always be people sailing, just maybe not in the current formats.
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A recent study on the future of sport here referred to 5 megatrends that are affecting all sport.

1- People are doing sports to get fit, not getting fit to do sport.
2- There's a rise in sports that are said to fall into the "extreme", "adventure", "alternative" "lifestyle" category.
3- the benefits of sport for society are being recognised more widely.
4- sports have to recognise that the population is ageing, and stay relevant for older people.
5- costs and commercialism will rise.
6- the increasing affluence in Asia etc will change the face of competitive sport.

I'm not overawed by the quality of the report from scanning it - for example it uses the rise in kitesurfing as evidence for a long term move towards extreme sport but ignores the fact that in the last 30 years windsurfing has dropped by much more than kitesurfing has grown - but it was done by a reputable organisation, and many of the trends have been identified elsewhere.

The thing that strikes me is that sailing could address these trends much better than it does. For example, where does sailing fit in with the move to play sport to get fit? There's been one academic paper that suggested that windsurfing was an outstandingly good sport for older people - if dinghy sailing was similar, fitness could become a selling point.

The rise in "extreme"/"adventure" sport could also be addressed by sailing - more 'raid' style events perhaps. Maybe there could be a different sort of personal ranking system that would allow people to sail at different clubs but record their scores on a ladder, so they'd get more freedom about when and where they sailed. It's not hard to see that a simple bit of re-orientation of the public image of the sport could make it a better fit with the shift to 'adventure' sports - why wouldn't the thought of doing a camping trip on a Hobie sailing kayak or pop-out poly cruising dinghy appeal to hikers, for example?
Down here in Oz there has been a major move towards 4wd camping, but sailing is completely ignoring that family weekending/soft adventure area.

The ageing population could be a good thing for sailing, so that's easily solved.

The rise in costs? Well, sailing CAN be cheap as we all know...it's just that the industry keeps pushing an expensive form of the sport.

So while existing sports may dwindle as new sports come in, sailing may be looking quite good in the face of the megatrends.  




We've all heard of the move to a 'pay and play' mentality but apart from providing hire boats and courses in some areas, little seems to have been done generally.



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