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didlydon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 08 Location: Margate England Online Status: Offline Posts: 280 |
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FWIW:- I have a Gul, so called "breathable"drysuit. I end up really damp inside from condensation. I even sent it back for testing as I thought it was leaking, but they said it was just moisture build up. This happens even on safety boat duty bobbing about not working hard..... I've never been swimming in it, but on launching & recovery you can really feel the cold striking through my long johns underneath....... So I would really carefully consider just how breathable a drysuit is likely to be before purchase. I'd like to think the more expensive ones would naturally be more breathable......
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fleaberto ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 302 |
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I sent my drysuit in for a new neck seal last weekend - Just as the first properly chilly spell arrived! Great timing! So, with much trepidation - and with wildly gusting, swinging 'breeze' on a mid-sized gravel pit, I took to the (cold) water in my basic, £35 Sola wetsuit, with a Rooster Race-skin underneath as mid-layer, Magic Marine thermals as base layer, some Magic Marine metalite socks and a Sola drytop over that lot.......The EPS spat me out more times than I can actually remember (Someone reckoned on just 3 capsizes, but I'm sure it was more!)...Anyway, at no point did I ever feel cold and movement was fine for all the clambering I had to do.
The temptation, I think, with a drysuit is that you just don't layer up enough. The assumption is often that 'Dry' means 'Warm' and 'Wet' means 'Cold'.
Not sure I'd be as keen to Wetsuit it up in true depths of Winter - but it was a salutory lesson in the effectiveness of the whole layering concept.
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cad99uk ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 187 |
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Highly recommend merino base layers under a dry suit.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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That sounds like a good idea, bit of the best of both worlds, I'd been thinking about using Polypro as a back up to a standard snowboard fleece base layer I usually use. |
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Puddlebuster ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 43 |
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For what its worth I have just reverted to drysuit for the winter. The thing I find most difficult is getting the layering right under the drysuit. For the worst /coldest weather I now wear a 2mm long john wetsuit under my dry suit which was suggested on here some time ago. Works really well.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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You have proof of this? As to wet or dry, long periods on the surface in spray inclement weather = drysuit Long periods in the actual water = wetsuit I once had a very very bad experience in a dry suit at Queen Mary when my board blew away mid race and I had to wait to be picked up, in the middle of winter. You get hyperthermia very quickly even with base layers when the water is very cold, which is where a wetsuit providing its 5mil or better is superior at resisting that bit longer and easier to swim in. I have both a 5 mil winter suit and a Typhoon. No question Typhoon make the best dry suits, they invented the concept in the first place and still have industrial and military grade contracts to back their R&D last time I looked. Having said that this latest front loader I have which I believe is similar to Wing Wangs, I find difficult to get in and out of, whereas back loaders are just a question of finding a coat hanger to attach oneself to and swing from. That said they're still potential death bags all of them if you are not fully aware of their pitfalls. Edited by iGRF - 01 Nov 12 at 10:35am |
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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Pondmonkey makes sense.
Winter wetsuits are layering are fine if you're going to be relatively active for a shorter period of time, and are good enough that you won't be in the water (much). They're fine for winter racing. It's what I go for.
But I do wish I'd had a drysuit when I was learning to trapeze on a 420. Winter training was often uncomfortably cold. As said, for winter team racing they're nigh on essential- long days with only short periods on the water, a drysuit is vastly comfier.
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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Blimey... I agree with Podmonkey. I'm sure this will cause a catoclismic solar event, but hey there we have it.
The reason I'm suggesting Trident is there suits are very good vale for money and the will extend the suits arms, legs and body if the youth grows for very reasonable cost. |
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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because it's cold? I do wonder if these folks who think wetsuits are always warmer have ever actually tried learning to sail a trap dinghy with an inexperienced helm in the depths of winter, when wind chill and spray can bring living temp down to -10 easily, and extended periods in the water can make your reactions slouchy and your concentration shorter, leading to, yep, more time in the water.... and that's inland, relatively far south. Also if you buy for enough growth room, and pay for a quality suit that can be maintained, then on the off chance you're looking at university team racing in a few years, then drysuits are definitely the way forward.
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Mister Nick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 389 |
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Just get her a good wetsuit. It's much more flexible so she'll be able to sail the boat better and be a lot more comfortable. It's a much more versatile option too, if you get a 3mm wetsuit then you can layer up and make it perform however you want. For instance, if it's a really, really cold day then she can stick some polypro leggings and a top on, with something like the rooster hot top over that and then the wetsuit. Failing that, get a 4mm surfing wetsuit and that will do the job perfectly. I genuinely don't see why anyone still wears a drysuit for dinghy sailing. There's no need for it at all.
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