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   It is an Australian creation, hence the name. The US do have an even less glamorous name though.So name aside - is there an area that I could target that it would work well in?  

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ospreys Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 25 Sep 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote ospreys Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Product Question Posted: 26 Sep 10 at 5:18pm
	It is an Australian creation, hence the name. The US do have an even less glamorous name though. So name aside - is there an area that I could target that it would work well in?
	The Seacure Waterproof Bum Bag www.seacurebags.co.uk

The Moo Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 01 Jun 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 809	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Moo Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 10:29am
	Erm shouldn't you have done your homework a little soooner? Others have said and I would concur that the Aquapac does the job nicely afloat.

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 11:22am
	I think I have to agree- it's got little use for sailing- it is bulk exactly where bulk is least wanted whilst sailing- look at racing bouyancy aids, they're cut very high compared to (say) water skiing ones. Doubt kayakers would like it that much either. Other companies (not just Aquapac!) already supply a wide range of watertight pouches and containers- as the intended way of wearing it is pretty much useless for sailing, you're then trying to sell it versus the wide range of shapes and sizes already on the market. It just isn't the right product.
	-_ Al

ospreys Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 25 Sep 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote ospreys Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 11:48am
	Interestingly, in Australia the Yachting community actually like the product and I'll quote: >>> As for the Yachting fraternity they love them here for storing all the stuff that need to be protected from salt water spray… they don’t necessarily wear them but keep their gear inside and close at hand. <<< And to defend the product it would take quite a bit of effort to actually puncture whereas an Aquapac or similar could be punctured much easier. Anyhow, thanks for the feedback from you guys and as I mentioned earlier, nobody sounds as they they would find one useful but if anyone genuinely does see the benefits of having one then drop me a PM.
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Pierre Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1532	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pierre Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 12:47pm
	Looks like a good product to me. Aquapacs are great... but no physical protection at all. I can this being used. PS.. Nice to know where radixon keeps his stuff ;-) Edited by Pierre - 27 Sep 10 at 12:49pm

chrisclark123 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 03 Apr 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 49	Post Options Post Reply Quote chrisclark123 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 1:30pm
	I can see benefit of one of these over an Aquapac, as i have found a pin hole in mine. All be it only a tiny one but why risk it for a £200 phone. However another idea for you to consider is a variety of shapes and sizes, for example having one that mounts round a typical mast. That is for dinghies. I can see the uses for say a keel boat if you need to mount it on deck. Hope that helps Chris

ospreys Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 25 Sep 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote ospreys Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 1:41pm
	Chris >>>I can see benefit of one of these over an Aquapac, as i have found a pin hole in mine. All be it only a tiny one but why risk it for a £200 phone. However another idea for you to consider is a variety of shapes and sizes, for example having one that mounts round a typical mast. That is for dinghies. I can see the uses for say a keel boat if you need to mount it on deck. Hope that helps<<< Excellent suggestion. There is in fact a smaller design on the drawing board that will hopefully come along reasonably soon. I like the idea about being mounted around the mast. If we explore that further - in your opinion, what would be the best way of attaching to the mast?
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Laser 173312 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 08 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 416	Post Options Post Reply Quote Laser 173312 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 2:18pm
	I guess one of these would float as it's a solid box. On that basis I wouldn't wear one as the last place I would want extra buoyancy is in the small of my back. It might find favour with cruiser sailors, but I'd reckon it's worse than useless for a dinghy sailor.

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 3:37pm
	for mast/boom/wing bar mounting some sort of rubber padding and velcro strap? Needs to be able to hold securely- some issue with masts being a wide range of sizes, but perhaps that can be sorted in a similar way to bike lights. In fact, making it a bracket (that stays on the spar) would perhaps be a sensible option.
	-_ Al

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 27 Sep 10 at 4:43pm
	I can see this being very useful for dinghy cruising (shhh, don't tell the regular posters on here, but it is bigger than the racing side...) and for open canoe cruising, where you aren't using a back rest like in kayaking. In fact, I've just finished restoring an open canoe, which I'll be rigging with a down wind sail and doing some short trips in this winter - a bag like this would be useful for the odd bits that need to be kept dry, though possibly not at the price, as the boat only cost £100! There are canoe and dinghy cruising websites out there that could well be interested, though most of the forums tend to be sparsely used, I think.
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