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    Posted: 25 Nov 04 at 2:14pm

Having just had a look at the rich list 2004 for the uk it seems that there are now 29 billionaires in Britain, equal to one for every two million people, which is a greater concentration than America, which has one dollar billionaire to every 3.6 million people.

Surely, some of these people have an interest in sailing?

I suggest gbr challange write a very polite letter to mr abramovich (£7.2 bn), asking if he has any spare change lying about.
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Originally posted by lozza

Having just had a look at the rich list 2004 for the uk it seems that there are now 29 billionaires in Britain, equal to one for every two million people. Surely, some of these people have an interest in sailing?

If you were very wealthy and interested in sailing would you:

1. Fund an AC campaign where the only position on the boat you could hope for is 17th man or:

2. Be owner-helm of a Z86 at a fraction of the cost. An AC campaign isn't "small change" even to a billionaire.

I know which I'd go for.

 

 
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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

If you were very wealthy and interested in sailing would you:

1. Fund an AC campaign where the only position on the boat you could hope for is 17th man or:

2. Be owner-helm of a Z86 at a fraction of the cost. An AC campaign isn't "small change" even to a billionaire.

I know which I'd go for.

 

 

But look at ernesto berterelli, did he not actively contribute to the alighi team success at the last AC.

i'm pretty sure that most of the billionaires would choose to keep completely away from the AC as it gives relatively little money back but what i'm is saying that it would a good way to get funds for GBR challange and a better set up for the team rather than getting a sponsorship deal with a company with more commercial interest than the actual sailing.
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Are we not talking about what will motivate a billionaire to throw around his cash in tens of millions?

So what motivates them - it has either got to be a love of the sport or publicity.

Look at Mr Branson's high profile stunts and for that matter Steve Fossett's in his balloon. These are high profile, high publicity events - you can hardly say that about the Americas Cup.
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how much has mr obram spent on chelsea??
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Posts: 1211 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Contender443 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 04 at 6:29pm

Excuse the pun - but football is a different ball game altogether!!

Look at the publicity football gets - that is why it gets the money.

The America's Cup is boring unless you are actually taking part. Who wants to watch 2 boats sailing up and down at less than 20mph, sometimes miles apart, sometimes not racing because of too much/little wind etc?

It is exciting for the Ainslies / Percys of this world as they are taking part. 
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well it does get prime time tv

and alot of companys are getting bored of formula one
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Sorry hurricane are you saying the AC gets prime time TV - if so where, I have not seen it.

Come to think of it I have not seen any sailing on prime time TV. We all know how much fun sailing is on the water but as a spectator sport it will never rate highly.
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I reckon the tide ride would have made a good half hour on grandstand the following saturday.  It wasn't too windy but there was plenty of action!!  I'm pretty sure it could have been edited and filmed to make it more than watchable to the general public!!
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The last GBR Challenge made national news and at least 2 or 3 1/2 hour slots on Grandstand only the Olympics and Ellen gets more. To Joe Public it the most understandable form of our sport (as a sport and not a human interest story) especially when edited Rally style, i.e. results and spectacular highlights.

 

It would be very interesting to look into the finances of the Billionaire backed syndicates to see how much actually ended up coming out of the Billionaires pocket – I’ve got a sneaky suspicion that once you take all the sponsorship, merchandising, advertising, corporate hospitality benefits e.t.c. into to account they won’t be seriously out of pocket. (You don’t get to be a Billionaire by throwing money away.)  What the Billionaires do is provide the creditability and underwriting that the corporate world need before it will take a risk.
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