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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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Some South West clubs seem very popular with sailors from the Midlands Region.
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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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The perfect venue would have plenty of rental accommodation so you don't have to drive during the week, sensible launching from a sheltered beach or similar, proper open sailing water with proper waves, but maybe enough slightly sheltered water in a bay to keep racing if it gets a bit fresh. Without sailing for an hour to and from the start line. So that's Penzance, Mount's Bay (give or take the beach), Looe, Lyme, Weymouth (SC)..... I'm sure there are quite a few others I've not done a nationals at. There are some clubs which would tick all the boxes but AFAIK don't run Nationals, like Worthing and Christchurch.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3400 |
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I'd add Torbay, of the three Blaze Nationals I've done all the host clubs did a great job but the race area at the 2021 Nats (hosted by Paignton S C) was simply brilliant.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6660 |
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Absolutely **** all to do with political correctness. If you never stray from the arc stretching from say Hayling to Pwllheli then mid to tail end of fleet sailors from about three quarters of Great Britain aren't going to turn up, and potentially serious sailors in that area bye and large aren't going to be interested in a class that never has a championship within reach. And while there are more active sailors down south, it means that you've about halved the potential catchment for your class. So if you're serious about being a UK wide class, not just a southern clique, then you do need to spread the championships round the country, not just go to Weymouth every year. |
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Dakota ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Aug 22 Online Status: Offline Posts: 168 |
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Spot on
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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You name me *any* venue and I'll find something wrong with it ![]() Going north is nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with - in most cases forlornly - trying to involve the other end of the country and there are some excellent venues up there. East Lothian have a good record of hosting big championships, Largs is the equivalent of Portland, Hartlepool have recently done some good champs in "lesser classes", Tynemouth have the Albs next year and Filey have hosted the 200s with success. Slightly further south and Abersoch and Pwllheli cater for two very different approaches to your event. The trouble with all of these its is a trek for the southerners, and the latter two in particular as its Birmingham and turn left. But the M4 isn't a one way valve and those of us north of it have to cross it far more often than the southerners have to. As I said the number of clubs capable of hosting a 50 boat champs that people want to go to is less than 10. In that list are two facilities (Which I don't count as they aren't universally popular) and three clubs that have do so in the last 5 years.
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IanW ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115 |
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The challenge for some of the smaller clubs on that list is finding enough volunteers to run these events. The last championship we ran used over 80 individuals and with an aging club demographic we have made the decision to have a fallow year in 2024 so people can recover. As these members age the pool of fit volunteers decreases and the viability of running large championships decreases. For members of working age taking a weeks holiday to sit on a rib / committee boat is also a big ask.
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Paramedic ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929 |
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^^absolutely^^
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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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The trouble is, many people are not dyed in the wool class loyalists any more. You offer a champs in Prestwick, someone else is putting Garda on the menu. If you look at who goes to events, there are a lot of people from North of Gloucester who seem to prefer to go South than North. If you live in Stoke, which is easier to sell to the family as a week away, Cornwall or Lancashire? Distance doesn't matter much for a week long event, but it does for a long weekend I think the classes which are really healthy not only have a decent Nationals turnout, but also have people travelling from club to club for Opens and regattas through the year? And a lot of that seems to be strong in the Midlands. The old classes which endure tend to have full calendars of 'local' opens at least? And then we have international classes, with people crossing the channel in both directions. One or two classes will be considering attracting people from euroland more than Manchester. Maybe being a UK-wide class isn't top of everyone's agenda.
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eric_c ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Jan 18 Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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I agree. It's even more of a problem when you're looking for volunteers who can bring their own RIB or committee boat.
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