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H2 
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 Topic: Downwind Instability = SwimPosted: 04 Feb 20 at 10:27am |
Might do - been quite fun having Nick Craig in the class over the winter!
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H2 #115 (sold)
H2 145 OK 2082 |
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GarethT
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 7:12pm |
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There's a fair few of us in your neck of the woods; Chichester Harbour, Stokes Bay, Lee on the Solent, Weston and New Forest.
There are a few of us doing the Chichester Snowflake if you fancy joining us (although this weekend looks a bit crazy!) UK Europe Sailing Facebook There is also a website, but most of the interaction is on Facebook. www.ukeuropclass.com Edited by GarethT - 03 Feb 20 at 7:21pm |
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epicfail
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 6:55pm |
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Hi Gareth, I'm in North Hampshire - so Weymouth is not too far away, the training day sounds rather interesting. Is there somewhere I can find more details? I'm a pond sailor I have no idea what to do with anything resembling a wave - unless it's from the rescue boat.. |
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johnbrooker
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 6:37pm |
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Hi all, as others have said more kicker may help. I use more kicker in stronger winds than light- you'll find the more you let off the more unstable you feel.
Rule of thumb- let is off as far as you can until the boat starts feeling unstable. Also bear away in the gusts and keep your weight aft
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GarethT
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 6:17pm |
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Where do you sail?
First weekend in June there’s a Europe event at Weymouth, with a training day on the Friday. Last year’s training day was brilliant, with some great tips on survival sailing (plus the whole event was a great social). |
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epicfail
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 6:14pm |
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Thank you everyone for pointing me in the right direction. Lots of really interesting stuff to think about, I need to get out and practice these things. I only started sailing again in November after a 30 year break, the first time I got in my Europe was for a race - haven't actually sailed the boat just for the fun. Now I know what I don't know I have something to work on!
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 3:21pm |
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I believe Steve Cockerill demonstrated that 'by the lee' works on boats with a stayed rig by cleaning up at the Blaze Nationals back in 2002. Perhaps you need to get him in an H2?
 Edited by Sam.Spoons - 03 Feb 20 at 3:22pm |
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish" |
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H2
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 3:14pm |
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I do love sailing, you get to learn each and every day! In the H2 you cannot go by the lee due to the stays and the flat top main is very sensitive to kicker down wind, as soon as the top of the sail gets ahead of the mast you are going for a swim 100% guaranteed so you literally sail downwind playing the kicker letting it off in the lulls and pulling it back on in the gusts! Clearly the Europe is different - I assume the same would work with a Laser and Finn?
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H2 #115 (sold)
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GarethT
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 1:42pm |
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Another thing, by the lee sheeting works the opposite way so sheet in to depower and ease to power up.
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GarethT
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Posted: 03 Feb 20 at 1:41pm |
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Unless you are already hard by the lee, you won’t gibe unless you keep steering. It gets you back flat so you can get back under control. Once flat I would then point a little more towards dead downwind, and sheet in a little.
If you’ve got your kicker eased it is really quite forgiving in terms of gybing, and you can pretty much sail on a broad reach with the sail on the ‘wrong’ side. |
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