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    Posted: 03 Jan 06 at 11:24am

Originally posted by Phat Bouy

If there is a boat on the Pin End who informs the RO what boats are/aren't over the line then they MUST be anchored otherwise you can protest them if you are called.

Care to quote a rule number or ISAF case that actually says that? I don't think you can but I'm prepared to be corrected.

 

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I'd say that it doesn't need to be written down. If a pin end RIB is needed to spot boats over the line for the Comittee boat then it's a fair bet the RIB crew can't see the Comittee boat end of the line. In which case they would need to have got a transit before the line got busy and not moved. The only way to do that is to be anchored.

Any half decent protest committe would ask how the RIB crew could tell where the line was if not anchored.



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Sometimes you need to be dead on the line to know whether a boat is over. Other times it is totally obvious that they are miles over.

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You can always call the first boat over after that it depends on the visibility and how much over and where the other boats are. It also depends on whether the rib is calling over or just relaying sail numbers to the c'ttee boat.
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Is this where the having an all white boat starts to become a good idea? I know at this years hurricane nationals a certain coloured boat was ocs, afterwards the race officer later said he only saw a bit of a coloured bow but knew who it was because of this.

The view about visability of ocs boats is often over looked at the tornado worlds the final results came down to a protest with the spanish saying it was impossible to say they were ocs from the video. they won the protest with the worlds being taken from team gbr and handed over.

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A certain club on the forth dont even anchor there commite boat for the start they have to marks which the start is between and then they motor the commitee boat onto the line at the last second. It seems to work well. They dont use a yacht for a comitte boat tho, its a purpose build boat!
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Originally posted by hurricane

Is this where the having an all white boat starts to become a good idea?

Yes. Conversely, it is where the committee want sail numbers on stickers on the bow, which you see in some events. 

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Originally posted by Calum_Reid

A certain club on the forth dont even anchor there commite boat for the start they have to marks which the start is between and then they motor the commitee boat onto the line at the last second. It seems to work well. They dont use a yacht for a comitte boat tho, its a purpose build boat!

Eeeek.  I assume they have not been protested yet !

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Calum_Reid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jan 06 at 9:08pm
I dont know i dont sail there but was there for a 1 day event they generally run yacht racing not dinghies but they put on a special event
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